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[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago

"Every nation gets the government it deserves."

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 3 points 9 hours ago

I know that there is always more that could be done, but did the infrastructure bill, the chips bill, and the inflation reduction act count toward helping the middle class?

[–] Icecreamface@lemmy.ml 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They all fuck us. Doesn't matter what color tie they wear.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Ha ha #bothSides . still?!?

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 10 hours ago

yes... both sides fuck us over for the benefit of theirs ruling/owner class.

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[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

This is why you don't base your political opinions on memes

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 72 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Forgot to put the portion where Reps try and block every single fucking thing that Dems try to accomplish.

Wanna know why abortion wasn't enshrined into law when the Dems had the majority? Because they didn't have a filibuster proof super majority for the handful of weeks they had all the power.

We got the ACA instead.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 19 points 17 hours ago

There's also just a massive element of the Democrats no longer functioning as a coherent political unit. It wouldn't help in an instance needing a filibuster-proof majority, but since being a Democrat is mostly negatively defined as "We're not the Republicans" these days, it has grown to encompass a range of views that prevents them from having a cohesive platform backed by all members in the way the GOP largely operates today.

Yes, Republican obstructionism is a major element in the dysfunction of our government at the moment, but even before you run into that, you have a party that embraces the Joe Manchins, Kyrsten Sinemas and Joe Liebermanns of US politics, while also having your Bernie Sanders and AOCs. Even before you encounter the obstructionist tendencies of Republicans, you have Democrats who don't fall in line that can hold the party platform hostage, and no meaningful mechanisms to force them to do so.

The Democratic Party really needs to start defining itself positively, rather than the current "We're not the other guy, so at least we aren't so bad" stance, and presenting a unified front in the face of Republican obstinance. There should be a time a place for intellectual debate, but the Democratic status quo not only makes them look incompetent when they can't hold members to task for failing to support major elements of the party platform (see Manchin's stranglehold over Biden's agenda that left quite a bit dead on arrival prior to Republican efforts), it also demotivates would-be voters.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Also forget the portion where dems do not use their powers unless it is needed for Israel.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yup the whole Republicans ignore the rules and Democrats don't thing hurts extra hard when you watch Democrats throw the rules out the window to support a genocide.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats very much followed the rules when supporting Israel's settler-colonial genocide, that's been a part of the rules since the settler-colonial project started.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No they didn't. There are specific laws forbidding military aid to war criminals.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and Israel has always been guilty of war crimes, genocide, and settler-colonialism. That's its purpose.

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[–] darthsid@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not buying this anymore. Dems could do the same if they had balls. Enough of this when they go low we go high bs.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Here, have an actual teacher - who goes to insane lengths to find shit (including the fact that many Dems were quite conservative) - explain:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8L9EfNx/

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[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Perhaps you can shake your fist angrily. I assume a sternly worded letter or phone call would be too much effort.

[–] DrQuickbeam@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Now make one with an elephant in the middle to put next to this one. It will be equally trite.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 32 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

False. The one with the elephant in the middle accomplishes things. Terrible things. I'll take do-nothing over do-wrong

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Yeah it’s a promise of $20 that never comes vs a punch to the face

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 18 points 19 hours ago

GOP gives their base red meat. This is because it is compatible with their donors' interests. This contrasts to Dems, for whom delivering for their base runs counter to their donors' interests.

What is deliverrd by the GOP is marginalization, of course, but this is still a more direct and materiap response than what the Dems do, which is just PR.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 20 hours ago

Yeah it will be, because that’s how the corporate-run political duopoly works.
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it [1][2]

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago (18 children)

And thanks to non voters you will never have a chance to get a better candidate since now free elections in america are a thing of the past. Congrats. Because you do your "both sides" garbage you destroyed any hope of improvement.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't know what you're talking about. There will be a 2026 mid term and a 2028 general elections. You should expect them too. Especially if you think Trump might cancel them. Loudly expecting him to cancel them normalizes it and mutes any protest. So they will happen, or we will be in the streets demanding them.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Oh my god how I wish to be so naive. There wont be a free election in 2028. I highly doubt even the mid terms will happen.

Any protest will be brutally knocked down and americans dont have the protest culture to keep at it. Especially not with more than half the voters, all Trump voters and all non voters, accepting the fascism to come.

So nope. 0 chance for a free election in 2028. Maybe you get the chance to decide which Trump or Trump ally you will have next lol

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[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

There will be a 2026 mid term and a 2028 general elections

oh sweet summer child.

Americans threw it all away for a man with a public history of failure, rape, cheating, lying, narcissism and incestuous ideology. If there's a real election in 2026 and Americans learn from their mistake, things might eventually be okay. Unfortunately, it seems America is the land of the ignorant who equate higher education with brainwashing. I'm not sure how to fix stupid, the country seems lost.

I'll be voting, but I have zero hopes my fellow americans will have learned anything. I'm also not sure, with lying and cheating republicans in place, we'll even have a fair election.

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