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[–] bradd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

There couldn't be any other factors at play here, it's clear as day. Red is bad and blue is good.

Stellar work, truely impressed. I can tell whoever whipped this up is highly educated and well respected. What a gift.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago

You can’t come at these people with facts.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Damn, did know that. Carry on Massachusetts and the Oklahomans fail to learn and continue to eat shit.

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Uh...Hawaii? West Virginia? Rhode Island?

[–] vordalack@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

CHADachusetts completely topping Cucklahoma

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Butcher knife is always gonna lose to hand pistol.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Second in American health care. ..

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously. What else would it be when comparing two American states.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

a decent amount of americans seem to think they are the global best in every category so probably not obvious enough even.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

This type of meme isn't helpful when people already think the Dem Party isn't for working class people and elites only lol. Trump listened to people issues about material needs even if he lied. It still worked. Harris and Dems went on the whole time not addressing issues with the economy. Adopting a real working class agenda and free college would do wonders and putting resources to getting the crazy folk away from Education.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

Ever been to MA?

Crapton of working class people there. I mean a lot. It is possible to have top-tier education and health care yet have working class people in the same State.

Being a rural state does not by default equate to “working class”. If anything it probably means more people per capita on government assistance or in poverty.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

Working classes don’t need healthcare or education? Quality of life is irrelevant? A strong economy doesn’t matter? One of the highest minimum wages doesn’t affect working class? I

Free college (depending on income)doesn’t matter?

[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Misses the actual pain points. These are good things objectively but these are not the things that people want change

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

It's probably more like no one has helped us improve our healthcare / education / quality of life, so we'll take a gamble on someone different.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe they voted against the incumbent so overwhelmingly because things are hard.

People vote based on their feelings.

When they were feeling pain, the message from the Dems was about how great the economy was, but the reality is that the stock market and GDP don't speak to the quality of life of these people. To them the Dems saying how great things were was dismissive of their real concerns.

Meanwhile, Trump latched onto their fears and concerns. Yeah, his policies are idiotic, and millions will suffer and be in worse shape. But when they said they couldn't pay the mortgage or buy groceries, he listened. The Democrats didn't because they've abandoned the working class that should be their backbone.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe they voted against the incumbent

I wouldn't be so confident about assigning such motivation.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They haven't been unanimous in the counties all those times.

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So then the trend is getting reder with time then? I don't see your point.

It's not saying 100% of people always vote red. But the majority have for a VERY long time.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. it got redder across the country this election.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

But the point, for this population and this meme, is that they have consistently voting in the same people and the results they have received are similarly consistent, and they keep voting that way.

Yes broadly there's been a "vote out the incumbent", but this illustrates why that's misguided, as it illustrates the different results of two states with consistent policies for each party.

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Again, not really sure what point your trying to make?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

When an entire country shifts away from a party, it means the party is doing something to drive them away. Trump is the worst candidate in the history of the country, yet he's won 2 elections. Why is that?

It's because the Dems have abandoned the economic policies that formed the heart of their party and lost the working class vote they've relied upon since the Depression.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 210 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

if living in russia taught me anything, people in distress reduce themselves (and got reduced) to the most basic questions, like who is to blame, and populists have them like a piece of cake.

Most vatniks, not unlike MAGAs, don't have answers to many questions, they want to be left alone to manage the hole they happened to be born into, and the promise of a candidate or ideology that does just that or even paints their quest as a herioic one, or a sacred sacrifice, would win again and again until there is someone to work with that and educate them.

They are used to live in shit and depend on themselves, don't know anything better and become pretty jealous if others get that. Others having it worse, especially their 'enemies', kinda makes their own living more bearable. Their struggle is a downpainment for a mission of punishing the unworthy ones.

When a person is downscaled to that childish level of consciousness it's impossible to reach them with rhetorics that don't directly benefit them.

As long as they continue to be like that and their thoughts are unchallenged, they'd always vote maga.

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 105 points 1 day ago (33 children)

Another way to view this is that the poor are voting republican now. Trump won those making less than $100,000 handedly while Harris won those making above. Probably because he's offering them a solution to there problems, deport the immigrants and bring manufacturing back. His plan is dumb and won't work but at least he's putting something forward unlike Harris who says everything will stay the same.

The democrats are slowly becoming the party of the out of touch elite, and memes like this don't help. The democrats need to be putting forward solutions to those problems, and trump has shown it doesn't matter if they're viable or will actually help. If these "dumb poor people are rubes who will fall for anything" give them something to fall for. Say your going to tax the billionaires at 50% and use that money to pay for Healthcare and child care, don't cozy up to them so you can raise another billion dollars to lose another election .

[–] yogi_pogi@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Probably because he's offering them a solution to there problems, deport the immigrants and bring manufacturing back. His plan is dumb and won't work but at least he's putting something forward unlike Harris who says everything will stay the same.

This is exactly what I was pointing out to my friends. Every one of us are making six figures, and could not understand why anybody would vote Trump.

And I asked them how many people in their lives are poor, living paycheck to paycheck. I have family members who are working two or three jobs to get by. All the work Biden did is not being seen or recognized by them.

Are they are under-educated yokels? Are they morons for not keeping up with politics? You can call them what ever you want. Theyre still a voter.

Face it: what they're hearing from Democrats vs what they're hearing from Trump are pretty clear cut and we can stay in this echo chamber all we want on Lemmy. Those folks aren't listening to us. They're just trying to survive and will vote accordingly.

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