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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

Damn, did know that. Carry on Massachusetts and the Oklahomans fail to learn and continue to eat shit.

Uh...Hawaii? West Virginia? Rhode Island?

[–] dodecahedron@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I hate Republicans too, they're selling the whole country for parts, but this meme sucks.

First of all, "all counties were red/blue" is not what "unanimous" means.

Second of all, I don't think "ha ha your state is poor" is the grand slam argument you think it is.

[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

We are pretty poor here.

I mean, take a second to look into why red states are poor.

[–] vordalack@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

CHADachusetts completely topping Cucklahoma

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Second in American health care. ..

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously. What else would it be when comparing two American states.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

a decent amount of americans seem to think they are the global best in every category so probably not obvious enough even.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Butcher knife is always gonna lose to hand pistol.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 31 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

This type of meme isn't helpful when people already think the Dem Party isn't for working class people and elites only lol. Trump listened to people issues about material needs even if he lied. It still worked. Harris and Dems went on the whole time not addressing issues with the economy. Adopting a real working class agenda and free college would do wonders and putting resources to getting the crazy folk away from Education.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Ever been to MA?

Crapton of working class people there. I mean a lot. It is possible to have top-tier education and health care yet have working class people in the same State.

Being a rural state does not by default equate to “working class”. If anything it probably means more people per capita on government assistance or in poverty.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

Working classes don’t need healthcare or education? Quality of life is irrelevant? A strong economy doesn’t matter? One of the highest minimum wages doesn’t affect working class? I

Free college (depending on income)doesn’t matter?

[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

Misses the actual pain points. These are good things objectively but these are not the things that people want change

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago

It's probably more like no one has helped us improve our healthcare / education / quality of life, so we'll take a gamble on someone different.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe they voted against the incumbent so overwhelmingly because things are hard.

People vote based on their feelings.

When they were feeling pain, the message from the Dems was about how great the economy was, but the reality is that the stock market and GDP don't speak to the quality of life of these people. To them the Dems saying how great things were was dismissive of their real concerns.

Meanwhile, Trump latched onto their fears and concerns. Yeah, his policies are idiotic, and millions will suffer and be in worse shape. But when they said they couldn't pay the mortgage or buy groceries, he listened. The Democrats didn't because they've abandoned the working class that should be their backbone.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe they voted against the incumbent

I wouldn't be so confident about assigning such motivation.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They haven't been unanimous in the counties all those times.

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So then the trend is getting reder with time then? I don't see your point.

It's not saying 100% of people always vote red. But the majority have for a VERY long time.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. it got redder across the country this election.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

But the point, for this population and this meme, is that they have consistently voting in the same people and the results they have received are similarly consistent, and they keep voting that way.

Yes broadly there's been a "vote out the incumbent", but this illustrates why that's misguided, as it illustrates the different results of two states with consistent policies for each party.

[–] wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Again, not really sure what point your trying to make?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

When an entire country shifts away from a party, it means the party is doing something to drive them away. Trump is the worst candidate in the history of the country, yet he's won 2 elections. Why is that?

It's because the Dems have abandoned the economic policies that formed the heart of their party and lost the working class vote they've relied upon since the Depression.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 208 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

if living in russia taught me anything, people in distress reduce themselves (and got reduced) to the most basic questions, like who is to blame, and populists have them like a piece of cake.

Most vatniks, not unlike MAGAs, don't have answers to many questions, they want to be left alone to manage the hole they happened to be born into, and the promise of a candidate or ideology that does just that or even paints their quest as a herioic one, or a sacred sacrifice, would win again and again until there is someone to work with that and educate them.

They are used to live in shit and depend on themselves, don't know anything better and become pretty jealous if others get that. Others having it worse, especially their 'enemies', kinda makes their own living more bearable. Their struggle is a downpainment for a mission of punishing the unworthy ones.

When a person is downscaled to that childish level of consciousness it's impossible to reach them with rhetorics that don't directly benefit them.

As long as they continue to be like that and their thoughts are unchallenged, they'd always vote maga.

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 104 points 1 day ago (36 children)

Another way to view this is that the poor are voting republican now. Trump won those making less than $100,000 handedly while Harris won those making above. Probably because he's offering them a solution to there problems, deport the immigrants and bring manufacturing back. His plan is dumb and won't work but at least he's putting something forward unlike Harris who says everything will stay the same.

The democrats are slowly becoming the party of the out of touch elite, and memes like this don't help. The democrats need to be putting forward solutions to those problems, and trump has shown it doesn't matter if they're viable or will actually help. If these "dumb poor people are rubes who will fall for anything" give them something to fall for. Say your going to tax the billionaires at 50% and use that money to pay for Healthcare and child care, don't cozy up to them so you can raise another billion dollars to lose another election .

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