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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Strange how every time somebody takes an idea Republicans spouted that would actually help people, and decide to run with it, conservatives suddenly aren't so keen on the idea anymore.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Theres about 0% chance of this happening without something totally catastrophic being bundled alongside it, like allowing creditors to come into debtors homes and beat them with sticks.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'd consider taking one beating vs 25% interest forever.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'm thinking they want to put discharging debt on the chopping block.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 268 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL, Bernie knows that's never going to happen. He's just reminding the world of an empty promise that trump made, and openly offering his help so that Trump can't say the Democrats blocked him. He'll still say it, but there will be readily available evidence to the contrary, not that that's ever mattered before.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Trump Admin: Cap interest rates at 10%, but also we repeal the thirteenth amendment.

Democrats: No! What is wrong with you?!

Republicans: DEMONRATS WON'T WORK WITH US TO CAP INTEREST RATES AND ALSO THEY DRINK SMOOTHIES MADE OF BABIES!

Republican Voting Base: [Thunderous applause. 90% voter turnout. 99% voter loyalty.]

Everyone Else: I dunno, both parties seem the same. [Sub-50% voter turnout. Interfactional backstabbing intensifies.]

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago

Even 10% is absolutely insane, especially with the ability to directly syphon their income.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 180 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know Bernie is being polite and playing politics, but let’s be honest: Trump keeping this promise is about as likely as Hell freezing over.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 279 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's not polite, it's calling him out. Trump will say/lie about anything. At one point Trump said exactly this. He didn't mean it, he just said some shit.

Bernie is repeating his own words because occasionally Trump says something good without any intent to follow up.

So Bernie is taking him at his word. He knows Trump will never do it, but if he can call the hypocrite out and trick him into agreeing, why not?

To want to talk about 4D Chess? There it is.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess we'll see, but I think we can all appreciate his willingness to go straight to brass tacks and hold Trump's feet to the flame while the entire Democrat Party leadership is still busy clutching their pearls.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What that would actually mean is a complete lock-out on credit cards for the poor.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see that as a real problem. Because as it is now, credit cards are something poor people should avoid at all costs.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it's a thing idiots should avoid at all costs.

A card with a 2% reward across the board(Fidelity for instance) can be used as a proxy for your debit card week to week.

It builds my credit, gives me a group of attack dogs to sic on anyone who rips me off, and gives me a cushion if I ever need it. If you never exceed your expenses and never reach beyond your means, it's no different in consequence than paying with anything else, with a little added bonus credit and reward.

It's people and their lack of self control that ruin credit cards.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would expect a massive nerf/devaluation of rewards if there's no poor people getting exploited.

I say this as someone who pays for all his family vacations almost entirely with points. About every year and a half. This time was Texas for the eclipse. Before that it was Disney world for my kids 5th birthday. Before that was COVID times and I used my points to buy hardwood floors that I installed throughout my house. Before that it was SC for the eclipse.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

While I do feel a sense of involvement in their exploitation by being a part of this system, I'm not going to feel bad for anyone who can't follow the simple rules of the game.

Where's the line between exploitation and personal fault? I can't expect everyone who's ever owned a credit card to have been put in the same situation where it's the only way. For all I know, my last reward points trickled down from some asshat who financed a car on unemployment.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

Oh God, who will the Credit Card companies exploit?!

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Considering how many Americans have crippling credit card debt, especially poor people, would that be worse? I'm sure they'd still offer those credit builder cards with low limits that you have to deposit collateral for the limit.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump promises require GOP to back him up to ever get close to being implemented. GOP have always voted against bank regulation/extortion limiting. People earning tips are not big GOP donors, so fuck them. Taxes on SS are only paid by richest SS earners, but GOP have been going around on trying to get overall SS cuts.

Any promise not Project 2025 is politician lip moving meant to bring Project 2025.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Since trump's party controls the entire gov right now he is going to be pissed when he learns he can't blame his failures on the dems for most of the country.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

He absolutely still can, his voting bloc is full of low information voters that just want validation for the racist/misogynistic hate they feel

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Goddamn I fucking love Bernie.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

You forgot the butter.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 day ago

Bernie calling out bullshit yet again.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Imagine that, scooping up cold butter on a spatula and slapping it indiscriminately on your partner’s exposed butt.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

ha ha ha ha ha ha riiiiight good one bernie

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Dems all act eager to act on Trump's actually good promises (untaxed tips for instance), it'll bite the GOP that much more when he backs out of those promises

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 day ago

That's literally never worked. I mean I get the idea, but it's literally never worked because republicans get elected predominantly by the deliberately uninformed.

[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I hope so, but they'll just blame the Dems anyway and their core voters will just believe it.

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[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Might be my background - lived half my life in a country where credit cards are interest-free for religious purposes - but 10% still seems insane.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Compare that to the ~30% I've seen, that's sadly an amazing shift (lol, which won't ever happen with the fascist caucus), but I commend Bernie for trying.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago

Somehow I don't think Mr "Pro-Business" will hamper banks' efforts to fleece us.

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