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History repeats itself?

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 15 hours ago

I don't think this narrative of an overall rightwards shift in the democratic party is accurate. It's just such a clean narrative and entirely too convenient for their opposition. It also just doesn't match the way their rhetoric has changed over the years. The left flank has at the very least gotten more left, what with the talk of Universal Healthcare and support of Unions that was unthinkable not too long ago.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is one of them depicted as far left? Their opinions are far from marxist lol

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Because that's what the establishment would label it

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The solution is obviously to vote for the greater evil!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The solution is to blame it all on the liberals. This stupid tankie shit is getting really annoying.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tankies and MAGA-types will never acknowledge or are incapable of comprehending that many "opposing" political and economic philosophies (e.g., socialism, communism, capitalism, republicanism, etc.) are all historically liberal philosophies that find their roots in The Enlightenment.

Authoritarians (i.e., tankies, corporatists, theocrats, fascists, statists, totalitarians, and anyone else who says "I'm in charge forever") of every stripe are assholes and should rightly be distrusted, ridiculed, and held in deep contempt by anyone who values free inquiry and thought and the principle of "consent of the governed".

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

After convincing others that the Democratic candidate isn’t far left enough, justifying accelerationism into collapse.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Make sure that the lesser evil doesn't win, that way everyone will know that the locus of power resides in the left, and not the right which just won yet another election!

That's how it works, right?

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

The left should run a strongman protector who can out meme anyone, and explains things using third grade language

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This begs the question: what's the alternative?

If it's a third party candidate, I have yet to see a candidate popular enough to be competitive in the general election. Voting for a candidate who's not popular enough to win does not slow the side to fascism.

If it's some non-electoral alternative, what are you waiting for? Voting for the lesser evil does not prevent you from taking other direct actions.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Macron in France has been elected pretending to be this third party candidate, effectively defeating the two traditional parties (left and right) but it didn't stop the shift to the right. If anything he paved the way to the far right to win the next cycle. One of his promises was to fight the far right and make it disappear, but in the snap elections this summer he ultimately preferred to govern with the far right's blessing, even if the left bloc got the most seats. He simply didn't want a social agenda at all costs.

Bottom line is capitalism ultimately leads to this shift, because redistributing wealth (the obvious solution that even a kid can understand) will never happen.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it’s some non-electoral alternative, what are you waiting for? Voting for the lesser evil does not prevent you from taking other direct actions.

Don't worry - the wannabe revolutionaries'll advocate for firebombing the government whilst safely doing absolutely nothing and enabling the genocide of as many minorities as they can.

It's the only righteous thing to do, in their eyes.

All theory, no praxis