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[–] Seeders@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I wish I had a schilling

for every senseless killing

I'd buy a government

America's for sale

And you can get a good deal on it

And make a healthy profit

Or maybe tear it apart

Start with assumption

That a million people are smart

Smarter than one

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 43 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If the numbers are true it costed him less than 0.1% of his wealth which is surprising how little it takes. Would you spend 0.1% of your wealth to elect a President and gain a government post that will bring you more wealth? Would you spend 1% of your wealth to become insanely rich? 10%?

In the society where power is measured by wealth ultra rich should not exist. Or better such society should not exist.

Also Musk wasn't even the biggest donor. And Harris was okay with this whole thing, she also received enormous donations. Who was against ultra rich? Bernie Sanders. No wonder he was sacked despite popular support.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

No I wouldnt spend 1 percent of my wealth to become insanely rich. Mostly cause that implies corruption and I aint nearly as bad as my kin though I have far more homicidal tendencies.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 87 points 15 hours ago (24 children)

If you live in Europe and think your democratic system is resistant to these things: it's not.

Don't wait until your version of Trump gets elected. Start organizing now.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 4 hours ago

Italy elected Berlusconi (a corrupted tycoon who had ties with the mafia and bribed his way to the top of the Italian broadcasting world) in 1994. Y'all just catching up.

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Absolutely, over here we’ve recently elected a horrible party as the biggest one, with 25% of the votes. Dark times.

The difference is that in many European countries the head of state is more of a ceremonial position (at least in practice) and the head of the government holds nowhere near the amount of power a US president does. With proportional representation, the biggest party often doesn’t have an absolute majority and needs to form a government together with other parties, or might even end up in the opposition. Together they agree on who’s going to be the head of government (usually the head of the largest party), who will be the ministers and what will be the policy. If it doesn’t work out because of disagreements, the government breaks up and new elections will be held.

My point is: the risk is real, populism is growing, policy is shifting, but the dynamics are different. Having a first past the post system and concentrating so much power into a single political position feels like an accelerator.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 7 points 9 hours ago

Don't wait until your version of Trump gets elected. Start organizing now.

No worries, he already has been elected last year!

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[–] franklin@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago

What an absolute treasure Robert and Sam Reich are.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 76 points 16 hours ago

This is fascism 101.

Fascism is at least as much an economic system as a political one, or more precisely, it's more like an economic system hiding behind a political system.

And the way the economic system works is very simple - private ownership of the means of production combined with an overt and institutionalized revolving door between business and government, so that the end result is plutocratic oligarchy.

Basically, it's taking the system that already existed in the US, by which the wealthy bought access to political power mostly surreptitiously and nominally illegally unless they followed specific restrictions, and legitimizes and formalizes and institutionalizes it and moves it right out into the open.

And behind all of the white supremacist and christian nationalist and reactionary conservative rhetoric, this was always the real goal.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Plus late stage capitalism.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

We don't need to be such downers about it.

Let's just celebrate this as the age of facilitating future dolphin supremacy!

We sucked hard, I have faith that they can do better because I can't really imagine how a sapient species could find a way to do even worse.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Speedrunning the decline and fall of the Roman empire.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

We're already speedrunning climate-based societal collapse, so there's not really much time to slow walk these things.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago

He also spent 44 billion buying twitter to disrupt and control the conversations happening there as part of his efforts, and now the the government essentially has a data mining tool and propaganda machine without actually 'owning' it.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

yes for him the USA is just a high return investment and livelihoods of the US citizens are just expandibles.

[–] Kilometers_OBrien@startrek.website 19 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Any of those 2a weirdos gonna show us what 2a is for or not?

I see a lot of domestic enemies around and suddenly the obese, insanely loud dipshits aren't making a peep.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

No, they love the boot on their face, as long as someone they hate also has a boot on their face.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

To be fair, a couple of them already tried.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

Looks like it's time for the left to start collecting guns and trigger the "wait, not like that!" response from the republicans.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

As a 2A advocate, I've recently considered buying my first gun. I don't own one mostly because I have young kids and I don't want to risk them playing with it and getting hurt, but there have also been a some incidents where people got shot due to road rage, and it would be nice to have an option to defend myself.

That said, regardless of how many or what kinds of guns I end up owning, there's no way I'm using them against the government, there's zero chance that ends well for anyone.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You can't have a democracy if you can't hold it accountable. Violence is the last option, of course. But it must be an option in the face of the threat of more violence. Fascists will always exploit this weakness in liberalism.

Sure, and if I felt we were actually facing a fascist takeover, I'd reconsider my options (and probably move elsewhere). But I don't, I'm more worried about the crazies on the roads that got something messed up from COVID or something and are taking it out on drivers.

Trump is certainly going to mess some stuff up that I care about, but I believe he'll leave in 4 years and we'll have another idiot in power, but hopefully one that brings us forward and undoes some of Trump's mess.

We're not going to see concentration camps or death squads, so a gun won't be helpful there. I'm far more worried about random crazies getting more bold and threatening my family.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Turns out it really is all a big club and we didn't get invited.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago

Carlin had it right 30 years ago

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 14 hours ago

Just capitalism taken to the logical conclusion. This term implies there's some form of capitalism in which this doesn't happen. There is not.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I guess technically he spent $44.13 billion