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    [–] TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

    If you're going to shill a corpo distro, at least shill a decent one like fedora.

    [–] starbrite@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    I'd love ubuntu, my only real problem with it is it's owned by a company and not community backed

    [–] avieshek@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

    Try Pop!_OS if you love Ubuntu

    [–] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

    It's the only distro I've liked for the last 2 years.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 12 hours ago

    Isn't Pop OS just System76's spin on Ubuntu?

    [–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    How is it with NVIDIA gaming?

    [–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

    my first linux distro was pop os, and i had nvdia then, i did not even know nvdia had problems on linux. its that good.

    [–] Lime66@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    The best from what I've heard, except bazzite maybe

    [–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Really? Bazzite is that one that looks like steam OS I believe yes?

    [–] Lime66@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

    I think you can also use it as a normal desktop but it does look like steamos

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Canonical wants to be Microsoft so goddamn bad they can taste it

    [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago

    Canonical is trying to be Redhat for the rest of the world, like SUSE

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    [–] pewpew@feddit.it 9 points 1 day ago

    Kubuntu is boring because it just works

    [–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I was pretty neutral towards Ubuntu, up until an automatic system update removed my deb Firefox and replaced it with the snap version, even though I specifically set the apt repo to a higher priority.

    The entire reason I left Windows is because I don't want (for example) Edge shoved down my throat after every update, and yet Ubuntu has gone and done the exact same thing with snaps.

    After literal hours of fighting, the only solution I found was to fully disable automatic updates. With Pop OS I have all the benefits of Ubuntu, but I also get a company (System76) that does cool stuff and doesn't try shoving snaps down my throat.

    [–] accideath@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

    Yea, that’s pretty much the reason I always go for mint, when I need something that just works

    [–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

    Ooohh yeah fuck that. That..doesn't sit well with me at all

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    it uses snap (less packages and security than flatpak), app.armor (less secure than Selinux), has a history of anti-privacy integrations (like sending user keystrokes to amazon), still collects some user data. Tumbleweed is better. Great kde implementation, strong security, a lot of cutting-edge software, stability, beginner-friendly

    [–] agelord@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

    sending user keystrokes to Amazon

    That's a very serious allegation to make without citing any source.

    Still collects some user data

    Someone has already pointed out, no data is collected unless the user opts in. But, my question is what's wrong with collecting anonyomized telemetry about most used hardware and most used/unused software features? It helps developers make better decisions.

    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    False (except for less packages, that's true), false, the amazon incident was a honest mistake and only applied to the search bar in unity (even more specifically the amazon lense), and no data is being collected unless you enable it during the install. https://youtu.be/rdPt8WB1lZw

    Also are you serious? A rolling release distro with automated package builds being more secure? Last time I checked Tumbleweed got affected by the XZ exploit.

    [–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Other than snaps, gnome, and the fucking painful default taskbar it's pretty good yeah. It just works™️.

    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

    I hate GNOME lol, I wouldn't be using Linux today if I had stuck with Ubuntu. If you like it, that's cool. I respect it, I just can't stand using it myself.

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    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago

    I learned better in 2012 when they tried to put an Amazon search bar in their start menu, the same thing people are complaining about with windows today.

    If I wanted to use corposhit I would have stayed with windows.

    [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I'm a very happy Manjaro user and have been for more than 5 years.

    Let's just say it doesn't seem to be a popular opinion around here!

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    [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Mfw I switch from windows to Ubuntu and I start seeing bad stuff about it

    [–] agelord@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

    It is indeed a good distro and one of the main distros that brings innovation to the Linux world. If it works for you, then keep using it.

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    [–] sirico@feddit.uk 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    The snaps bad echo chamber

    Snaps bad because proprietary

    Pre installed Nvidia good because propriety no wait video games!

    Ubuntu's mission was always to build bridges between the user and tech and businesses that the gnu side of Linux wouldn't.

    It's a good just works distro that has spawned a ton of just works distros and sane server defaults. I see Ubuntu on the same level as macos.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Proprietary Nvidia drivers are seen as a necessity, not a "good thing", which is why Nvidia was repeatedly pressured to give up the code. Open-source Nvidia drivers suck in all applications, and if you don't need anything demanding, you probably wouldn't have a solid Nvidia card in the first place.

    Gnu side of Linux tries to change the practices used by said businesses, and the more people embrace it, the more pressured companies become to be compliant.

    Any sane copyleft activist (of which there are many in the Linux world) sees this change as a betrayal; security experts and enthusiasts are also not happy about a program doing something unknown sitting on their system.

    [–] Laser@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    I don't like snaps because it's just another Canonical NIH thing. Everyone else agreed on flatpak which seems to have a good design with portals and all and being fully open.

    On the other hand, you have snaps, which is being controlled by Canonical as the server component is l non-public. The packages sometimes work worse than normal debs and the flatpak version (steam being a notable example IIRC).

    There is 0 motivation for me as a user to look into that. They have solved the problem in one of the worst ways possible. Even Mint, which is Ubuntu's biggest downstream, has opted against including it by default.

    In addition to all of that, Canonical also installs applications as snap when using the apt\£* command line tools.

    So you have a system that is

    • proprietary
    • worse than the alternatives
    • pushed on users even through unexpected channels

    Ubuntu's mission was always to build bridges between the user and tech and businesses that the gnu side of Linux wouldn't.

    Which bridge did they build with snaps?

    It's a good just works distro that has spawned a ton of just works distros

    Which in turn have removed snaps by default and replaced the affected packages with native ones because it often didn't "just work"

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    [–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)
    [–] bastion@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Snaps bad because shoving updates down throats.

    snaps bad because

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    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 167 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Hey, you should be careful around Ubuntu fans. They might just snap.

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    [–] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 92 points 2 days ago (3 children)
    [–] starbrite@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

    Careful with that XZ package

    [–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    The cool thing about Arch is that with some learning, time and effort, you can make it function just like Ubuntu

    [–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

    I don't know if serious or burn

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