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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who says drugs can't be part of self care?

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (9 children)

My first lsd trip told me stop smoking. Another trip told me to stop smoking weed, too. My last trip told me to stop edibles.

Learning to meditate now. Breathing is what it’s really about, yo

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

ahh it's such a funny thing to be able to say "the drugs told me to stop doing drugs".

my first lsd trip told me to love myself more; quite literally too, i was just about to fall into ego death and i saw a second myself in the dark void of mind who faced me and said "love yourself more". One hell of a first trip ngl

goodness how much better the world would be if shakes fist the US government! didn't stop psychedelics research, we could have proper psychedelics assisted therapy by now. An LSD trip on its own already feels like doing 6 months of normal therapy but in the span of 8 hours, and when you intentionally therapise yourself during it? Make that a year of therapy in 8 hours. Imagine what we could achieve if there was a trained professional there to assist you.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get that. I don’t think I’ll ever go fully vegan but I’ve become much more conscious about what I eat. Much more lentils and good rice and dates and stuff like that. See what happens.

Did you also have the impression while tripping how obviously wrong, bad and really unhealthy heavily processed stuffed tasted? Or more like a philosophical experience?

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was a purely philosophical experience in which I lost all believe into gods and artificial distinctions between humans and other animals. I cannot come with any reason, why eating humans must be wrong, but eating a cow should be okay. So I decided, that harming either of them must be wrong and my ability for compassion had to extent further than my own species. There is no God to tell my how to be good. I have to decide for myself and I decided to inflict less harm on my fellow earthlings.

Also, there is no free will.

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can also come to the conclusion that eating humans is okay haha. I joke, of course. Interestingly, I’ve never really believed in any deity because it never made any sense to me. Now I’m inclined to worship Gaia, the God we live in. I’m not religious, but worshipping our ecosystem just makes sense.

Free will is an interesting concept and I think the way it’s usually used is just wrong or misunderstandable. I don’t think there is a free will, but I get the sense there is some kind of will inside me and I have to find out what my inner self really wants, or better: needs. I think the freedom to pursue that inner will is what "free will" really means.

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

You can also come to the conclusion that eating humans is okay haha. I joke, of course.

It did cross my mind, but i won't be declaring myself food, so this is easily dismissed. 😆

but worshipping our ecosystem just makes sense.

Or at minimum handing it over in good condition to the next generations, instead of wreaking everything left and right.

Free will is an interesting concept and I think the way it’s usually used is just wrong or misunderstandable. I don’t think there is a free will, but I get the sense there is some kind of will inside me and I have to find out what my inner self really wants, or better: needs. I think the freedom to pursue that inner will is what “free will” really means.

What i wanted to say is, that choice is an illusion.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the drugs were part of self care, is what I’m hearing 👀

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Breathing exercises, gut health, sleep, diet, activity = freedom

Lean into that meditation and breathing! It's made my sleep issues all but go away

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This is the way

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 2 points 2 days ago

I can breathe while I do drugs. Best of both worlds.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's actually a Timothy Leary quote about this.

"Once you get the message hang up the phone."

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Great quote. Really feels like a journey that’s destined to end sometime in the near future.

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

About breathing? I'm just not that into it.

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've tried, but eventually I pass out from withdrawals and end up using again while in out. Sleeping me refuses to kick the habit, so here we are.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Check out Fatal Familial Insomnia. It's just a cute little prion you can get that will let you never fall asleep again. Maybe that would help with the withdrawals?

Side note: it has been determined that prions are not terrifying, actually. No, that is not the prion speaking, don't be silly.

Were it only that easy.

[–] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Experiencing nondualism randomly throughout each day has changed everything for me

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It’s a great feeling

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just make sure your next trip doesn't tell you to stop breathing haha.

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I will hehe. But in all honesty. For me, a trip doesn’t feel like a drug but like a deep conversation with the core of your inner self and what it means to be you. And I don’t want to be dead, that’s for sure.

Interestingly, the looming threat of your own immortality is much easier to accept on psychedelics than in real life, I feel.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

there’s this person with their divine experiences and then there’s me talking to tiles in the toilet and getting scared of a faucet

[–] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ngl I’ve admired tiles in a community toilet on a Dutch camping lot before. A trip is a long and varied experience and just admiring pretty colors and movements and seeing stuff in things is definitely part of it

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We stopped doing drugs during self care?

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought that's what self care was.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Dude don't forget incense. Vibe is all important for self care and doubly so with drugs.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Once I stopped doing drugs, my crippling depression returned.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you wanna go hard, shrooms, acid, mdma, ketamine are the ones you want.

Take them seriously, they're powerful. Be in a relatively good headspace, have someone you trust with your life to watch over you the whole time. I don't know if you need a sitter for mdma.

Don't try to control what happens. Shrooms and acid specifically are like one giant alien rollercoaster teaching you the lesson, "when you try to be in control, life is hell, when you go along for the ride, it's bliss". They do that by making it hell the second you attempt to exert your will on the trip, and sending you into bliss when you go with it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah I would think that many people on this site are not in the right headspace for psychedelics at the moment. For... Reasons. Set and setting are crucial.

Ketamine on the other hand... Perfect mind set to do a line and enter the hole, and leave your worries behind for an hour or so.

One thing to mention about Ketamine, that you shouldn't use it to often, because its really fucking bad for your bladder. Isn't usually that much of a problem if you only use it very rarely.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm tryna get on that toad.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Someone told me I should try this for quitting other drugs that are a problem for me right now. I have psychedelic experience but never broken through on DMT or ever tried 5-meo-dmt. I think it might be too intense but there is a guide available. Anyone have experience with this?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

We stopped?

[–] Nedlymandico@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Great now bring back the good drugs. I want my actual heroin again!

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I love drugs. I don't care who knows it. So what if I wanna do lines of acetaminophen or boof nyquil with a funnel. My body otc's choice

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Already started. Why isn't there a single good drugs community on Lemmy?

Started smoking cigarettes again recently too. Fuck self care!