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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

LA told me

"You'll be a pop star

All you have to change

Is everything you are."

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

Ok, and white must become black.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Or what? What are you doing to do about it if they don't change at all; if they'd rather lose with a lesser fascist than win with a progressive?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Correct, Biden just cozying up to Trump when he should be using emergency powers to arrest this madman who under the 14th Amendment isn't even eligible to be President was absolutely sickening to me.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Biden doesn't even know wtf is going on. If he does, the last thing he's doing is trying to salvage his legacy. He's got no fight in him.

He truly fucked us. Not saying Harris would've won necessarily, but having only 3 months to run a campaign against someone who's been running for 8 years is tricky. You can see why given the number of people googling if Biden dropped out...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 2 hours ago

A legacy of "Used powers given to him by the Supreme Court to stop Hitler 2.0" would be better than "Sucked Trump's dicker harder than Elon did."

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

"The establishment party must become an anti-establishment party"

Have you all learned nothing from 2016? Democrats will rather let Trump win that let this happen.

The slide to the right is no accident nor is it ignorance. Fool me once...

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Are you suggesting that Democrats want alt-right leadership in power?

[–] FantasmaNaCasca@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

They want corporarions to stay in power. The 2 parties are just flavours of capital.

Neither are for the public.

[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago

They and their donors would prefer thst over a Bernie win.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 5 hours ago

Nothing has convinced me of that more than Biden and Trump's sudden bromance

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Or there needs to be an anti-establishment party, since the Democrats can never be one.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Or maybe just ban "parties" and this phony, slaver system

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They are the establishment. Why would they ever change? They would rather Trump win, than their easy paychecks be disrupted. You are never going to get a democrat to care about people.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It would be easier for progressives to take over the DNC and state Dems than to form an entirely new party and make it viable.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 47 minutes ago

If that's the case, then it's never going to happen, because the democrats are never going to let it happen, so you're basically saying stop voting or caring about anything and just lay down and die.

There is no future for the democratic party. This election convinced me that they are never going to care about anyone but their donors, and next election I won't be voting for them. I've voted for the candidate they shoved down our throats to defeat Trump three times now, and most of the time they've fucked it up. No more "lesser evil" crap. I'm not voting for evil again, period.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago

well just in time for the supreme-court-approved executions of the anti-establishment politicians. imagine not getting this after Bernie had massive support despite all the efforts of the Democratic party, and after the orange cunt winning just by paying lip service to being anti-establishment...

seriously, that's all you needed to do. not actually do anything, not help anybody. just fucking lie and pretend you give a shit about people grievances about being crushed by the system.

you couldn't even clear that bar on the fucking ground, and lost to a cunt who's known for firing people, not paying for anything, and shitting on a gold toilet. because you're physically incapable of criticizing systemic oppression.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 57 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Going further right didn't help, now we need to go as left as possible

Radical ideas like Universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, free child care, taxing the rich.

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 41 points 9 hours ago

Radical ideas the rest of the 1st world had had for 50 years and successfully implemented.

[–] LunarVoyager@lemmy.world 50 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, if only there had been an anti establishment candidate running for president as a democrat in 2016... too bad...

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world -5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah if only he hadn’t lost the popular vote TWICE in the primaries.

[–] LunarVoyager@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If only the popular vote in the Democratic primaries meant anything at all.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The delegates too. But are you just gonna ignore MORE people voted Hillary and Biden over him to fit your narative?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"Party" goons =/= people.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Just like GOP refugees created the Tea Party, we need to rally around the greatest symbol of the French Revolution, and build a Guillotine Party.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

I've always thought "the guillotine society" had a nice ring to it... Not party isn't bad either

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

Let's call it the Rule of Law Party. One law for all of us. An end to elite impunity.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What?

They are the establishment.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 33 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thus the call to become something else; become being the operative word, meaning to change from what they currently are.

[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I fear it's too late. Unless the party can be taken by force it won't be enough and we only have 4 years. If dems didn't snub Bernie this all probably wouldn't have happened. Our choices used to be two flavors of corporate fascism, now it's far right vs corporate. Dems are better on social issues, but it's not enough.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Dems are clearly better on economic issues as well. Not nearly good enough, but better. The problem is that they will only go so far, and they won't talk about it, out of fear of angering their wealthy patrons.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, why don’t you tell your Republican friends and families that the GOP dosent do shit for them?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not sure why this applies to what I said, but my few Republican friends and family are uncomfortably aware of what I think about their politics.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

You stated Dems are better at economics. Have you told your conservative colleagues that?

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