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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

That is not a new pose for Republicans.

From 2011:

Newt Gingrich is standing by comments he made earlier this week when he called the Palestinians an "invented" people. "Remember, there was no Palestine as a state."

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

Lol the downvotes? Let's see, the full context here...

“Basically, there really is no such thing as — I need to be careful about saying this, because people will really get upset — there’s really no such thing as a Palestinian,” Huckabee said at a 2008 campaign stop in Massachusetts while speaking to two Orthodox Jewish men. “There’s not.”

In response to a question from one of the men about the possibility of a Palestinian state existing outside of Israel, Huckabee said he believed this was the preferable option.

“You have Arabs and Persians,” Huckabee continued at the 2008 appearance. “And there’s such complexity in that. But there’s really no such thing [as a Palestinian state]. That’s been a political tool to try and force land away from Israel.”

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You all really think there were a significant amount of people who voted trump because Biden and Kamala also support genocide?

That's wild...

What happened is some people couldn't compromise their own morals to vote for either, and Republicans don't have morals so that compromise was easy for them.

You can get mad at them all you want, but this isn't the first time this has happened, look at virtually any presidential election in modern history a republican won, and it's because the Dems went to far right and left their base behind.

We've been doing it for decades, and when a moderate wins it's by the skin of their teeth with large amounts of the people voting for them openly saying they won't make a good president but the only other option is a Republican.

We know the current strategy doesn't work.

We know that even when it does, things just temporarily stop getting worse, they don't get substantially better.

So can someone please explain to me the logic of doubling down on moving to the right every election?

Why do you think it will magically start working?

Why not do what we did in 08 and run a young charismatic candidate with a progressive campaign and just fucking dominate an election again leading to the House/Senate alomg with gains in red state governments?

How many times does neo liberalism have to result in fascism before the party stops shoving it down our throats?

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago

Someone better pick up that phone, because I fucking called it.

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