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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 108 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Trump’s policy agenda includes a Congressional bill to define government-recognized genders strictly as male and female, as assigned at birth.

I have to wonder what is going to happen when the law runs headlong into science here. Because sure, this might primarily affect trans-folk, but they aren't the only ones who defy strict binary gender.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago

I believe their official stance is simply that any “expert who thinks they know better than the duly elected president” will be fired or ignored

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 65 points 5 days ago

Just have to look at climate science for an example of science taking a backseat to political will.

[–] draneceusrex@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

Intersex and the rest will be ignored and marginalized, just like always.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have to wonder what is going to happen when the law runs headlong into science here.

They'll double down even harder like the failed war on drugs, despite the damage it's causing. As long as conservatives "feel" like something is the correct solution, it's the right way to go, all evidence, studies, and science be damned.

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[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Science?? Have you seen the abortion debate? There are vegetables classified as fruit and other horrors on the law books. Science got nothing to do with it.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think that science has any place in the Trump administration?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't, but when you get to a courtroom, where there are standards of evidence, a judge is going to have to make interpretations that don't match up with the law.

Hell what happens when there is a typo on a birth certificate? If I'm assigned female at birth and am not genetically nor biologically female, what then? I just have to wait five times as long in bathroom lines? Does the government get to track my menstruation?

All of Trumpists' dreams of simplicity are defeated by asking just the most obvious questions. Imagine if I were smart enough to ask good questions.

Well, Trump replaced a bunch of federal judges with sycophants. And, fascists really don't care about the rule of law or logic.

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[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 52 points 5 days ago

Just like a good little Nazi.

[–] DegenerateSupreme@lemmy.zip 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I was naive to think they'd try easing into this stuff, but — perhaps fortunately for public outrage and taking action — they are being loud and clear about it. Really just no subtlety whatsoever to the fascist horror.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Why be subtle? A majority voted for him, he has all 3 branches of government, and any opposition he has is too concerned about decorum to do anything to stop him. Thanks, non-voters in swing states!

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

This is the man who said "you send your kid to school as a boy, and they change his sex and send him home a girl." He told his rally goers that schools do sex changes and they believed him.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 21 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Misleading headline. Nowhere does the article mention anything about banning such care for adults.

It's still wholly and completely shit, but the headline and the first paragraph are (as of right now) incorrect.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago (7 children)

It will be kind of hard for adults to get gender-affirming care, though, when the government enforces that your gender is fixed at birth.

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He also proposed excluding hospitals and healthcare providers who offer these services from Medicaid and Medicare

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Repealing Roe V Wade was only about stopping late term abortions. It's not that hard to read the room with this orange dipshit.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Hair plugs are gender affirming care for men. Those banned too?

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sucks that breast augmentation will be banned for girls under 18. And I assume likewise for guys regarding treatment for gynecomastia.

The party of rAtIOnAliTY aNd lOgiC would know that those are also gender affirming, right?

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

All the innersex conservatives sweating right wondering if they'll also be marginalized

Whoopsy

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