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Exactly 20 years ago, Mozilla started shipping version 1.0 of its Firefox browser. At the time, you could download it or buy a CD-ROM with a guidebook

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AI and Pocket. Remove those and include Ublock by default and more people will use it.

If users have to disable 5 annoyances before even starting to consider moving over is really annoying. Most people will just go back to chrome

Nah, while the annoyances are there they are generally unobtrusive and most users wouldn't notice they've even there.

The real block to Firefox is out of Mozilla's hands. Google pushes Chrome aggressively via their search engine - users get prompted to download and use Chrome. This is monopolistoc behaviour and the only way to tackle it is anti trust action. Microsoft is doing the same with Edge and it's slowly growing market share as a result.

Sadly stopping that is not likely to happen. Maybe if Musk encourages Trump to continue the US case against Google, and/or the EU decides to wake up and regard browsers as important again.

All Mozilla can do is try and keep Firefox development going and keep the The organisation financially stable.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Former glory??

I’ve never used anything but, tweaked to perfection, wherever possible. It’s glorious AF.

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Firefox was the most used browser at one point before Google headhunted Mozilla devs to work on Chrome.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Not true, Firefox never overtook Internet Explorer.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

IE and Chrome (and iOS Safari, I guess) are monopoly browsers. The natural enemy of private and good.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't half (or more?) of the discussion revolve around the fact that Firefox isn't shipped with any product? We have known for literal decades that most folks will not change what the OS ships with. This was part of the Microsoft monopoly issue, yes? Now we have it with them again, and Google. Apple is a little more complicated I guess.

Firefox works fine, bit of isn't part of any major package, and not all websites test for it. I don't know what Mozilla can do to overcome this.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Apple is simpler - they just say "fuck you" to any other browser at all.

Any "different" browser on iOS is just a shell.

Hopefully we'll see that change with the new EU regs.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They could improve Firefox on Android.

Currently, Opera browser has the best UI in my opinion, especially on large screens. Firefox does finally have tabs, but no permanent desktop mode, which should be really fucking simple to implement. Just a toggle to change the default value. Changing UserAgent gives fucked up scaling.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 7 points 3 days ago

Long term user of Firefox on Android. It just works for me.
But I'm still waiting for better middle button mouse handle - #1587995.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

How? Debloat. Remove the AI bullshit. Remove the sponsored crap, remove Pocket, hell make the Firefox Sync stuff something you need to install separately as an add-on. Give us a no nonsense, just works, lean and mean web browser.

Problem is that that doesn’t make any money. So they won’t.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 3 days ago

Have they thought of putting in a crypto wallet? Or just forcibly enshittifying every aspect of it with AI?

[–] Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Obviously they need to bring the CD back

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago

Huh, computer magazines with CDs included. Inside the best compilation of software, few exclusive demos.

[–] krnl386@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Honest feedback: run Chromium tabs in 100% degoogled mode. Make that a “compatibility” feature and focus on making these sandboxed tabs completely indistinguishable from real Chrome (or as close as possible) to websites.

[–] krnl386@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I’m sure the answer starts with a conference on various social justice topics at lavish hotel. /s