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Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.

This is murder.

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[–] envis10n@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To anyone saying she tried to run over the officer, please watch the body cam footage. She is turning the wheel as much as possible to steer the vehicle away from the officer. On top of that, she pulled forward very slowly. If you were trying to run someone over, you would not give them every opportunity to avoid being hit by the vehicle.

Stop licking boots

[–] cowpowered@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The hell is wrong with this country. Shoplifting is not violent crime. If they flee put out an arrest warrant and they'll turn up later, in a lot more trouble.

Cops are well aware standing in front of a car gives them a free pass killing someone who attempts to escape. It's totally unnecessary pointless murder.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It’s totally unnecessary pointless murder.

It's an execution. Someone accused of a crime doesn't get a trial or a chance to defend themselves. Someone with a gun makes a decision to end their life on the spot.

[–] Boddhisatva@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cops are well aware standing in front of a car gives them a free pass killing someone who attempts to escape.

Not to mention, standing in front of a car driven by a POC who has every reason to expect the cops to shoot them anyway. That person is already frightened and likely panicked and not thinking clearly. Putting yourself in front of a car with a panicked driver who is justifiably in fear for their life is incredibly stupid.

Also, what is with cops just repeating the same command over and over again and refusing to otherwise interact with the person. Are they trying to make the situation worse? Why not try and de-escalate the situation. Oh, that's right, they want a reason to shoot people.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Are they trying to make the situation worse?

Yes, because it lets them use lethal force like the jack booted thugs they want to be.

[–] Thurgo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do not understand why it is so common for police in this country to stand in front of a car and then shoot the driver when the car moves. It's a manufactured danger and really does not seem like a smart idea to use your weapon to put a corpse in control of a heavy machine.

[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

Getting shot over shoplifting is insane.

The usa is fucked beyond saving

[–] Lord_McAlister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So some neckbeard republicans are going to come out and say "She should have just complied", but honestly what is the absolute worst scinerio if she WAS shop-lifting? In what world is it not a better option to just get her FUCKING CAR'S license-plate number, track her to her house, then arrest her there when she's clearly cornered? Or just boot her car when it's found again and force her to come to you to get it off?

Because now you've killed a woman and her unborn baby over some God damn groceries.

[–] sab@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The headline "Pregnant lady caught shoplifting groceries; arrested" would already be telling of a society that has gone far over the edge.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How should this have been handles instead? If she really really doesn't want to comply, You write down her license place, and you let her go.

That simple.

You have her face on video, you have the license plate, it's trivial to then go visit her at her home and have a talk. Hell, follow her if you have to, but not in a high speed chase. Just keep your distance, let her go where she wants to go until she's done.

Worst case scenario, you just let her go.

This extreme focus on that every petty little thing MUST be stopped, every small time offender MUST comply only ends in this. Suffering.

Instead focus on fixing poverty and you know, making sure that pregnant women have all they need so that they don't need to steal? That is why we banned abortion, no? Because we care about babies?

Oh yeah that's right. We care about unborn fetuses, but born babies can get fucked.

Let this woman have an abortion if she can't afford a baby. Now she doesn't need to shoplift, at least not for the baby

Lift people out of poverty. Push people to be better educated. THOSE are things that will actually lower crime rates but then it means they ml o longer are the common pulp that can stand on

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worth noting that the car didn't have plates according to the Police.

Hardly the Police job to solve poverty?

This 21 Year old has a 6 and 3 year old sons. I'll let you do the math on that. But it adds up to before some states had bans.

Regardless. They should not have drawn their guns since she didn't pose any immediate threat.

Regardless. Fact of the matter is that the situation only escalated after the police drew their weapons.

Regardless, her trying to run one of the cops down is only going to end 1 way.

[–] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This 21 Year old has a 6 and 3 year old sons. I'll let you do the math on that. But it adds up to before some states had bans.

First of all, red states made it next to impossible to get abortions even when it was legal. Also, they cost money. Contrary to apparent popular belief, George Soros or the DNC don't just appear to fund every abortion. Or, sometimes people are Catholic, which is fucking stupid, but maybe there's some family shit you don't know about. Especially for a minor trying to get an abortion. Again, contrary to popular belief, they weren't just being handed out for free on every corner to every 16 year old who wanted one. There were still a million obstacles long before the Dobbs decision.

Second, "I'll let you do the math" is a judgey, self-righteous, and gross statement.