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    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 93 points 3 days ago (16 children)

    Most people don't even know what a browser is, let alone an os

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    [–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (14 children)

    Turning an OS to subscription based. World class assholes. The alternative is win11, which is even more shit while they are working hard to fuck that shitshow even more up. Yeah, Linux is the way to go.

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    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

    The way everyone talked about Linux, I thought it would be a transient interest I would eventually tire of. I've known a lot of professors who say they liked Linux back in the 90s, but decided they couldn't keep up with it, and have gone back to windows/apple.

    I never anticipated that 4 years ago, when I booted up Linux for the first time, that it would also be the last time I shut down Windows. Furthermore, the likelihood of me ever going back seems to be getting smaller and smaller every day.

    [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    Worked on me, I finally switched (like, REALLY switched) on my primary PC this year after using Linux only for servers and hobby projects for a long time. My only regret is that I may not live long enough to have used Linux longer than I used Windows. I'd have to make it to my mid 80's just to break even.

    Valve gets all the credit. Gaming was the main thing holding me back all this time.

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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 21 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    Truly 2024 is the year of the Linux desktop. no notes.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    It was actually 2022, the year when steam deck released. The proton compatibility shot through the roof. Linux now supports a far wider array of software than MacOS, even.

    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

    Next you'll be telling me Linux supports more software than my TI-89 😆

    [–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Proton is amazing. All the Steam games I bought in Windows run great in Linux Mint.

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

    Same around 80% of my steam library runs on linux.

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    [–] iii@mander.xyz 36 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    WSL is the best thing that's ever happened to windows

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Wsl = very cut down version of linux

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    it's interesting they call it windows subsystem for linux

    - oh, so it's a subsystem for Linux?

    - no, it's a windows subsystem

    - ...for Linux?

    - kind of, I guess

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    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    WSL is the best thing that’s ever happened to windows

    WSL is great but the NT kernel was/is more important, then userspace GPU drivers (which Linux still lacks), then WSL.

    People now in their 20s don't realize how utterly bad Win9x and then the first consumer grade NT-based WinXP were (and those older may have forgotten). Win7, 10, and 11 are paradise by comparison. These days I can cope with Windows. I don't love it but it's not a daily cause of anger like the Windows dark ages. Heck, winget even makes software installation bearable.

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    [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Keep dreaming, people will keep on using Windows because they don't care about the bloat, they just want something that works and that doesn't require fucking around for hours every time they plug something new in!

    [–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    i doubt the average user even understands what an operating system means and they'll just go with thatever it came with

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    [–] spookex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    It really is amazing how I can mess up Linux installs for the weirdest of reasons.

    Install arch from scratch on a laptop? Now it either doesn't go to sleep when you close the laptop or a kernel panick.

    Manjaro? Edited the config for the touchpad (of course it's a random config file that you have to change line by line and read 3 wiki pages for, because Linux) because it doesn't feel like windows and ran updates from the built in manager within the os. Now it doesn't boot at all and causes the boot logo to ghost while using windows 10 installed on another partition.

    Pop_os? Worked mostly fine, used it for months, broke it only once when using the built in package manager somehow fixed it, but stopped using that laptop and now I can't boot into it at all.

    Not to mention all of the software that partially doesn't work or work at all. Like, my personal choice for image editing is paint.net, it's not a useless meme like MS Paint, but also isn't the equivalent of using a bucket wheel excavator for digging a hole in your backyard like Gimp. It also doesn't work on Linux at all

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

    More like it will be forced on computers especially in the gaming side.

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    [–] hobovision@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Copium.

    Steamdeck made many times more Linux users than Windows ever did.

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    What about Dell and Lenovo with their linux ubuntu pcs.
    Edit: Lenovo also Offered a Fedora linux laptop.

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    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Me with cachyos and still dualboot windows 10, man linux is really nice and flexible I can leave windows but I don't feel very confident but cachyos is a really good arch based distro i can try void some time but i am conformable with cachyos.

    [–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Windows 10 was actually ok when you got past some of the awful stuff. Nowhere as good as 7, but it did the job for me for years.

    Windows 11 got announced though and I immediately switched to Linux lol.

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

    I still dualboot 10 since it's better then 11 and still supported, I don't feel brave switching to linux completely.

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    [–] twinnie@feddit.uk 19 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    I spent today trying to install a USB WiFi dongle in Debian. On Windows it took about 5 seconds, I still haven’t got it working on Debian.

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

    Try a distro with a newer kernel.

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