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"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

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Electric motorcycles: Promising potential, but challenging reality (motorcyclesports.net)

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Electric motorcycles are seen as an eco-friendly alternative, but their practical application still faces major challenges. Models like Zero and LiveWire have limited range—under 100 miles per charge—which makes them difficult to use for longer trips or routes outside major urban centers. This reality limits electric motorcycles to short commutes, especially in cities where it’s […]

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[–] MissyBee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

One of the manufacturers(Black Tea motorcycles) that looks promising for my next Bike keeps upping the range ever so slightly while they improve performance and get better batteries from China. Currently 250km.

Unfortunately my country cancelled some stimulus money for buyers and for the biggest range packet and fast charging installed on the bike it cost 12k EUR.

At the moment my next bike will probably a repairfriendly used ICE sport-touring motorcycle for 6k EUR. Can't wait till the prices adjust(economies of scale) or used E-motorcycles pop up on the market.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do we really need a 84 HP e-bike?

Less power = less energy used

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The article is about e motorcycles, not e bikes.

Beyond design and styling differences... we are talking about something that is highway speed capable, has a range comparable to to an ICE motorcycle, doesn't have a human pedalling component.

You need more power to be able to do all that.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl -2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean e-bike = e-motocycle in this context.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on the application. A dirt bike? Absolutely not; too much torque and horsepower means that you're going to spin your wheel regularly (and this is why most dirt bikes are thumpers, too). A conventional street bike, touring, or dual sport? You can probably go a little lower, but probably not a lot for a large touring bike like a Gold Wing. A sport bike? That's low, by at least 20bhp; 100-ish bhp is about the lowest you'll see for a 600cc-class sport bike. I can't say for certain what the tops competitive 1000cc supersport bikes are putting out, but it's probably close to 200bhp. And all of that power needs to be in a very light package, because you need the maneuverability to quickly negotiate s-curves. (I live in the mountains; there are a number of s-curves near where I live. I've seen the aftermath of cruisers crashing because they misjudged corner speeds.)