So uh.
This post has now violated NCDs Rule 10, right?
this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2024
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Admins all over lemmy are antisemitic or anti-Zionist. I have seen users banned from lemmy.world for posting a link to the IHRA definition of antisemitism.
If you don’t toe the line of Israel = evil, but offer some nuance, the mods delete posts and ban users. Posts that are very much inside the rules.
There’s practically a nonwritten rule on politics and news communities all over lemmy, that threatens to ban anything Zionist or nuanced regarding Israel.
Of course it’s worst with the tankies from lemmy.ml, but lemmy.world is barely better.
Blahaj zone admin here. There's quite a bit of confusion and misunderstanding in this thread.
No one is "selectively removing NCD content" or anything close to it.
What happened is that 6 months ago, CDRMITTENS was instance banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone over an anti Palestinian meme they posted. You can see the mod log for that here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?postId=11419938. This meme conflated Hamas and Palestinians in general, and basically blamed Palestinians for their own genocide. Notably, the post also broke NCD rules 2 and 5, but wasn't removed by NCD mods.
As a result of CDRMITTENS being instance banned, none of their content reaches lemmy.blahaj.zone anymore. You can see that for yourself here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/u/CDRMITTENS@sh.itjust.works, which shows that no content from this user has reached blahaj.zone. There was no selective removal or editing of content at play, because none of their content reached blahaj.zone to be able to selectively remove it.
tl;dr - It's just an instance ban, not selective moderation
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/4336208
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11381339
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11419938
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16644488
Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules, you banned the person who submits the most content to NCD
Nuke, not to be a dick, but did you talk to Ada before making this post? Because it sounds like there might be some miscommunication here.
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The first link isn't removed and the second link references Pepe. The third link is the same link as your first link
Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules,
Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned.
I have no idea about NCD. I don't use it, I have no idea who posts in it, and it doesn't come in to it. Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned, and your most active poster, posted bigotry.
and the second link references Pepe
... wait, is that really enough to justify removal?
It is when I'd just removed another post by the same user, conflating palestinians and hamas, blaming palestinians for their own genocide
Ah. I thought you meant there was a general rule against Pepe.
Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal
I understand that point of view, definitely. Just wanted to make sure I didn't need to be checking my meme folders carefully before posting on 196, not that I have many Pepe memes lol.
I'm not associated with anyone in this thread or the situation being discussed. I'm interested how we understand and use cultural signals. Here's some Pepe detail for the similarly curious:
The alt-right got wise to new media in the 2010s. They started meme-washing their hate mongering and trying to normalize coded hate speech in internet culture using Pepe memes and other popular formats. It snowballed and the Pepe meme = Nazi user association is a product of lasting trends from that time. It's similar to clocking someone for wearing straight-laced Doc Martens or khakis and a white polo.
For those in the know one of those items is a small red flag. The wearer could be completely ignorant that these are known dog whistles/identifiers for members of hate groups. If someone is wearing a lot of small red flags then it's less likely the wearer is accidentally serving white supremacist. That's the point of stealing and manufacturing these kinds of symbols though: most people don't know they exist or what they intend to mean so the user can feign ignorance with plausible deniability. They're the inverse of modern progressive advocacy symbols. Wearers can hide in plain sight with just enough Nazi showing that other insiders see them. Pride icons for cowards.
The artist who created Pepe has publicly denounced the character's use as a hate symbol and regressivist propaganda tool. Whether or not a community or individual "liberates" Pepe from the prison CHUDs built is up to them.
For what it's worth: I lean toward liberate most of the time (fight against the thieving bigots) but in this situation, even given a permissive setting, adding "posts Pepe" as a mark against is sensible. It's clear the user is either intentionally pushing hate propaganda or else under enough alt-right influence that their intentions aren't relevant to the evaluation.
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Meh, if they decide to ban a specific user from another instance because they don't like that user's content, it's fully their right to do so.
If you're devout blahaj user but love NCD, might be a good idea to create an alt for fighter porn then. Otherwise meh it is what it is.
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Things are fine as long as we're not on blahaj, then? Just clarifying.
Correct! And there are tons of wonderful instances to choose from! Please everyone be mindful of which admins you choose to police your content.
Since this sub is not hosted on Blahaj, can you please provide a list here of mod actions on Blahaj showing what you mean?
I wouldn’t expect 3rd party moderation would have much impact thanks to federation.
Yeah, it can’t affect you at all unless you’re on blahaj.
I did a quick skim of the most recent posts as viewed on blahaj vs as on sh.itjust.works, and checking the mod log on blahaj didn’t show any of the recent posts as having been specifically removed. There’s one user that was banned like 6 months ago whose posts don’t federate to blahaj but now is a weird time to notice it.
I didn’t check super deep into the logs though so I’m curious what specific posts have been removed, if any, and if OP tried reaching out to the blahaj admins about it.
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always lookin for more mbin testers over at moist!
Nice instance name
thanks! i figured the best way to keep commercial interests at bay was to make it, as i like to put it, 'comically unmarketable'
Very marketable, but not from a corporate standpoint. I love it. I think you'll be seeing neidu3 registering soon.
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Wait, removed by Blahaj admins? What's going on with that?
If I understand right, they're upset that the blahaj.zone admins blocked content from CDRMITTENS on their instance. Blahaj admins can't remove content from a community hosted on SJW, but they can prevent content posted by individual SJW users from showing up on blahaj.zone
Personally I think nuke is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Blahaj admins can do whatever they want on their instance. I don't really care whether or not I can see content posted by someone who supports the IDF. I'd actually rather not see it tbh
Yeah, this all seems like a very unforced error. I love drama, but not when it interferes with the functioning of the wider Fediverse as a cohesive whole.
They're very anti-"tankie", and I can see how some ncd content gets caught up in that blast
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Was there some sort of beef that the blahaj admins had with sjw or ncd? I’m out of the loop here tbh
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