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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only issue I have is the last part. Don't wait four years to talk about whatever the issues are, you have representatives even in the outgoing administration and congress right now to contact. By all means vote for the right people to make sure you can still do that after the election without fear of retaliation, but don't vote and then complain fours years later nothing was done if you haven't reached out during that time frame.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It really is surprisingly effective. So few people actually contact their legislators.

I set up a harassment campaign and got a few hundred people to contact a state legislator whose committee was holding up legalizing weed in my state and a few months later it was legalized. Agitate. Make a difference. Protesting doesn't do shit, get all the people there to call their representatives and senate members - especially for state and local stuff, and you might actually get something changed. Or even better, send a letter.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I set up a harassment campaign

AKA lobbying.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, yes, but grass roots and I'm not paid lol

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, this year the German government passed the law for decriminalization of weed, and it was almost blocked by our Federal Council if it weren't for thousands of community members harassing them on social media and via Fax (yes, Telefax is still used by our government 🤦)

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not posting a Snopes link or whatever, but it was Mussolini who allegedly got the trains running on time, and he didn't anyway. Improvements to the Italian rail system were begun under the previous government, and actually the trains weren't particularly punctual under his regime anyway.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What you have to do in the us: bitch for 3 years about all your problems, then shut up for a year so the party that wants to genocide you doesnt get elected, and then you can start your bitching about everyday problems again. Its very sad that these two things occupy the same space.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Two-party systems unfortunately always settle into this problem.

Definitely vote for Kamala now, but remember that real change begins at the local level - try to support policies and candidates who approve of ranked choice voting.

[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

First of all, Trump is the most incompetent person to ever set foot in the white house. He couldn't make the trains run on time or he needed them to get away from a lawsuit. Second, Harris is going to be a great president if she is elected. Let's just hope she is.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, Trump is promising to make the trains run on schedule too?

Is there anything he won't copy?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck the trains. Let's talk about the genocide.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right I'm sure people are refusing to vote Harris over trains and not literal genocide lol

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

deep sigh

  1. There are two choices in the United States 2024 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
  2. A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would (Harris has at least said she wants Israel to stop. Trump wants them to finish the job), but would also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
  3. Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don't vote for her.
  4. Snoozing fascism for four years is better than inviting it through the door now, and buys us time to build our defenses for when it comes back.
  5. Regardless of whether you do anything else to fight fascism or not, if you don't vote, or you vote third party, you raise the chances that a Hitler admirer will enter the white house.

I'd like to focus my counterargument. Which of these statements do you disagree with?

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[–] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

For anyone being asked to provide evidence or sources that “Orange Man Bad”, the latest Some More News episode has you covered:

https://youtu.be/ciZ5XDxUJhI?si=zcSnwLvFyAA1qBcP

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