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actually awesome and fast search engine (depending on which instance you use) with no trashy AI and ADs results also great for privacy, if you don't know which instance to use go to https://searx.space/ and choose an instance closest to you

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

it's like using google from 2000's; thanks for sharing

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 14 hours ago

Man, i wish i had the same experiencr

The couple of times I tried it out, the search results where barely accurate

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Aren't all search queries available to whoever hosts an instance? In my eyes this is much worse to privacy and a much bigger risk unless you really know who is behind your chosen instance. I would trust some a company a bit more with safeguarding this information so it does not leak to some random guy.

[–] sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I've always gotten the impression it was mostly intended to be self hosted. I've self hosted it for something like a couple years now, runs like a clock. It still strips out tracking and advertising, even if you don't get the crowd anonymity of a public instance.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Companies are definitely selling your data. Use a VPN.

[–] macgyver@federation.red 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

As someone who hosts an instance, news to me lol

Edit: Developer says this can't be done currently? Reddit comment

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

It doesn't bother me one bit of you know my search history. You'll learn I search a word to see if I know your to spell it properly and that I DIY a lot of stuff lol

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Been rocking self-hosted Searxng for the last 3 weeks now as my default search engine; it's as good or better than DDG and certainly better than Google. Results I need are usually within the first three items, no extraneous shit.

I thought I'd just try it out, but it's staying. The ability to tune the background engines is awesome. My search history is private (though I wasn't that worried about DDG, there was no way in fuck I was using Kagi) since it's running it's searches via a VPN and returning me results locally.

[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

it’s as good or better than

It's only as good as the search engines you select. Which ones have you selected?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Defaults are working fine, I might have added one or two.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that to protect your privacy you should also share your instance with others. All the searches are still linked to an IP which can be abused as well.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, that's the purpose of the VPN. It's out there mixed in with everyone else that's using that exit node.

Honestly, it's not too much of a concern to me, I'm not doing anything illegal or naughty, it's just making sure I'm not part of the dataset.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Yep, a VPN is a good solution.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

How does it work self hosting? Is it querying other search engines or just maintaining a database on your server?

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

It's a meta search engine: it aggregates results from multiple sources for your search query. So yes, it queries other search engines.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Its all calls to other engines, that you can choose and tune. So its making those calls and filtering out shit like AI results, and then ranking it to return back to you. Seems to do a good job.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone explain the meaning of the name and the people having this project please?

You're trusting how information is filtered and funneled to you with a search tool, but a change to take lightly. Google sucks, but they have a lot to lose, a lot of eyes on them and I know generally their base motivations.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Fortunately, you can read through the source code of SearxNG and even modify it - provided that you also publish the modified version to your users if you host it publicly.

You can run your own instance, public or private. Or you can use a public instance.

Internally, it uses other search engines, rather than crawling the entire web and indexing everything.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It's ok at best, when it works. When it runs out of API hits for the day at noon, you need to use something like https://searx.neocities.org/ and retype your search multiple times until you manage to hit an instance that can actually perform a search.

Also, no suggestions.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I use this daily and just wanted to highlight two downsides:

  • 1 some instances are quite slow in response

  • 2 some instances are non English, so everything except search results might be unreadable unless you know that language

The second one has been happening less frequently recently though, not sure if there are just more English instances or some other reason behind it.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Self host it, it's nothing to set up.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't that defeat the only benefit - anonymity?

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

It strips the tracking data to and from the engines, so if you tuck it behind a vpn, GG.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Not if it runs the queries it sends out via a VPN where it mingles with thousands of other requests. An API call doesn't have the disadvantages of browser fingerprinting, cookies, etc that are used to build a background of a user browsing to your search engine and track their searches. Also, there is no feedback to the search engine about which result you choose to use. If you allow outside users, it would further muddy the waters.

Ideally, you'd have it run random searches when not being used to further obfuscate the source.

[–] g1ya777@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I really wish there was a privacy oriented search engine with decent search results ...

[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Does it have a widget? I want to integrate it in my workflow on my phone

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

No widget. You can make it into a web app though.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

The best thing is to self host it, to have better uptimes and custom default settings

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Did anyone else not know Lycos was still around? Lycos is still around. Seems not that bad. No AI stuff.

[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

4get.ca has been great for me.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

I have it running on my server, and honestly... I almost love it more than kagi. Still evaluating both, to make a decision by the end of the year.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Dig out old PC from somewhere, install some Linux distribution, Tailscale and Docker/Podman, and install SearX that way.

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