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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because money.

That's it. That's all. He's rich enough to do literally anything he wants. He could use the FBI as his own personal dead hooker disposal company if he wants. Welcome to America.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Leon could buy a Medal of Freedom from the Orange Asswipe.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One part of having a security clearance is also willingly signing away certain protections that you as a private citizen otherwise have.

So fwiw him having a clearance does open the door for additional scrutiny were anyone willing to look.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yes, plus, he owns contracts with the government that likely contain classified information. It is just much easier to have him under a contract that allows them to just spy on him, in this situation.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The bastard should be stripped of his US citizenship for illegally working in the USA.

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

CIA needs to start doing its job and um... you know, protect American interests. The African scammer needs to go.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Security clearances are nominally the domain of the FBI, rather than the CIA. They tend to see themselves as a right-wing organization though.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I don't think they were talking about revoking the security clearance here. At least not directly.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Doesn't he already smoke weed. Openly? On YouTube videos? The exceptions made for him are truly staggering.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He claimed it was only on Rogan and that he normally does not smoke anyway. Depending on if you wanna believe that or not.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He broke federal law in a public setting. If one murder would be enough...why not this?

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure smoking weed isn't federally illegal, just possession.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm aware of the LSD and Ketamine, weed wouldn't surprise me too.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we stop declaring things "Too big to fail!"

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Socialism for the rich.

Rugged capitalism for the poor.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Back to the bootstrap factory with you

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 167 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I've said for a long time now that the U.S. government needs to stop relying on SpaceX and I've got a ton of pushback. "He's not in charge of the company! He just owns it!" Yeah, well I am guessing he wasn't talking to Putin about electric cars or Twitter.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, he absolutely was talking to Putin about Xitter as well, I'm guessing! This "champion of free speech" has pretty much silenced any opinions about Trump and his companies that he doesn't like. Nice little preview of the world we're careening toward where billionaires get all the money, all the power, and they can even direct the speech of media outlets...

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nice little preview of the world we're careening toward where billionaires get all the money, all the power, and they can even direct the speech of media outlets...

It's already like that. It'll just get a lot worse in the U.S. if Trump wins. There are plenty of countries where this is the norm already unfortunately.

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats like saying Bezos doesn't run WAPO and didn't kill the endorsement, its a nonsensical notion

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[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually, Musk is not running the day to day operations at spacex, so removing spacex is not really a big need. He was driven out successfully from there a few years ago. But he's still wrecking havoc at tesla.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

He's been talking to Putin regularly for years now. The damage has already been done.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hard to stop relying on the best rockets in the world. Maybe Blue Origin or RocketLab will step up but it’s hard to see that happening.

Better to just force him to divest than to drop one of the very few good launch providers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (14 children)

They only are the best rockets in the world because the U.S. government has been giving them piles of money to develop them.

That should not have happened in the first place, but I would like to at least see the government seize their patents since they were paid for by our taxes.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Take the company, keep the good people and make it a part of nasa.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

If the US can force a sale with Tiktok then the US can force Elon to sell SpaceX for national security reasons.

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[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

They’ve been giving Boeing lots of money too.

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[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean... He makes rockets for them. Wouldn't he have to have some clearance of some kind?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Security clearances have dependent requirements. His admitted and open drug use should have been the first thing to get his clearance revoked but as others have stated: in America you are only liable for the crimes you cannot afford to commit; as long as you have the money for it you can do anything here.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Lol. So did MacAfee. He said he had tried "all the drugs" and they gave him a clearance.

I don't think there are any hard and fast requirements. The idea is to analyze your overall risk, not whether or not you're a naughty person for having done drugs.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I have crossed paths with a couple celebrities that I was surprised had top secret clearances at the (based on open drug use). That part doesn’t really surprise me. His propensity for blackmail is what I find troubling. He may not be a financial risk but he’s certainly a risk due to his desire for control and/or power.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I suspect not. Even if they still work with SpaceX, the contracts could be handled in a way that doesn't involve him. He could still manage the overall direction of the company but have others manage projects that require a clearance. I don't know if this has ever been done before or if it would ever be done, but it is theoretically possible.

Alternatively, they could make a requirement that either Musk steps down, or is removed, from his position at SpaceX or they stop getting contracts. This would almost certainly work because the company doesn't survive without these contracts most likely, or at least makes far less money. The board cares more about money than they do about him probably.

[–] mostdubious@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the conservative right is a threat to the very existence of american life. there are nuclear weapons involved. we are in a self defense situation.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatism is about denying basic human decency to the majority in order to artificially elevate an elite to fawn over.

[–] mostdubious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

let's teach them all that their time is over.

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[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

When your net worth is equivalent to the GDP of Iraq and greater than that of most countries.

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Well, they’re wrong.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

His starlink --> SpaceForce --> Alphabet agencies pipeline is what scares me

https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/10/24/live-coverage-spacex-to-launch-multiple-satellites-for-the-national-reconnaissance-office-on-falcon-9-rocket-from-vandenberg-sfb/

More of this shit's going up next year..... Just in time for for the DPRK/PRC/Russian/Iranian escalations

Lets privatize top-secret comms and AO mission orchestration. That's not gonna bite us in the ass....

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Because cowardice runs rampant in Washington

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the corruption that takes the United States and throws it on the history pile with Rome

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

Milquetoast doesn't want to do his job if it even sniffs at being political.

I cannot wait until his weak ass is kicked to the curb by Harris.

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