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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Sure, because Linux never has hardware crashes ...

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I currently have a memory or CPU issues (I have not investigated), which causes my windows install to lag out for a second, but my Linux install just completely crashes the entire system

No hesitation, pure feedback

[–] Laser@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Blue screens were much more common back in the day, I guess nowadays they're equally stable. Windows current issues are the deliberate choices Microsoft makes

I have crashed Linux before. On a Raspberry Pi. I was fucking around with some electronics on a breadboard, hooking them up to the GPIO pins while the thing is running like a dunce, and a male jumper wire connected to Vcc got away from me and dragged across the circuit board near the SoC.

It came back up after I power cycled the board. I've otherwise never actually crashed Linux. I've crashed software running on Linux, sure, but I've never seen a kernel panic in 10 years of penguin flavored computing.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Windows user here. I don't have a fear of BSODs.

On the other hand, I have "Linux users are elitist jerks" syndrome, which stops me from switching to Linux, due to a fear of Linux users might be elitist jerks. This can be only cured by massive improvements to the Linux community, and a debugger that has an actual GUI for Linux (no, I don't care about whatever cute little script you've written for GDB for a semi-automated testsuite for command line utility that converts one obscure format into another).

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Linux users are elitist jerks"

Elitist jerks are elitist jerks. Ever talked to a stuck-up Windows I.T admin? The constant scoffing is unreal.

What about people rich (or financially goofy) enough to obsess with Apple products?

I think most community people regardless of OS just wanna be helpful and enthusiastic. (I like the word "enthusiast" haha) You'll always find elitists around topics that involve learning skills and mastery.

I dunno, I'm just happy sometimes people care here when I enthusiastically ramble to them about all their Linux-y choices they can solve problems with lol. We're not all like that.

Jerks just stick out more. Don't let them tint your opinion of an entire community. I managed to even enjoy ranked League of Legends for a short while because I didn't assume everyone was out to attack my ego with theirs.

Hope you have an awesome one and let us know if we can help you with anything. :)

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[–] Shard@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Linux Syndrome:

When nobody asked but somehow the solution is Linux.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you browse linux communities long enough, you eventually start seeing openbsd users who condescendingly speak about linux the same way some linux users speak about windows lol. It's turtles all the way down!

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

wait till u hear what the templeos people have to say about openbsd

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (4 children)

NGL, some distros will give you the anxiety that the next update will brick your OS as well

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well I updated my computer and my audio stopped working; to the logs! Lol I love Linux, but find myself asking "what now?" much more frequently with it..

With windows it is more like "wtf is this new ad on my start menu?" Or "how can I opt out of all these features no one ever asked for?"

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

I used to dual-boot and use my Win10 for gaming.

But in the middle of Vermintide 2 I kept getting BAD BSoDs seemingly at random! None of the typical steps seemed to help. Probably something NVIDIA related I dunno.

I was gonna "refresh this system" and all Windows told me after "We're getting this ready." was: "Can't. Dunno why. Sorry."

But hey, switching over to my OpenSUSE Tumbleweed install made the game play really smooth, and no crashes! And soon, I discovered it ran all my other games just fine or even better as well!

I haven't touched that Win10 install in ages, and will probably drop it in favor of VMing it really soon.

The only real holdout is that my VR headset is WMR. That really sucks. :(

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sigh… c/linuxmemes continues to leak

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[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 44 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Other cures include literally just restarting your PC once a month so it can install updates.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I haven't seen a blue screen in years.

Yes, Linux Preachers, I am a Windows user.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen one recently, when I kicked my computer by an accident.

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[–] renzev@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a Linux user, and I have "X11 decides to lock up the entire system irrecoverably for no reason" syndrome. Should probably look into wayland...

X does fall over sometimes. Since I've been on Fedora KDE running Wayland, I've had a couple "you're now in recovery mode" moments as well.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I saw that happen once in a big presentation.

There was a team of students presenting their work to ~200 people. Right in the middle, a pop-up says updates are finished and the computer needs to restart. It has a helpful 60-second countdown, but β€œcancel” is grayed out, so all they can do is watch.

I was only in the audience and I still have nightmares.

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[–] Waffle@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

This is what got me to switch to Linux (arch btw). I was getting blue/green screens 1-2x a week and it almost always ruined a gaming experience.

Now I can bork my system during an update, but at least I can game smoothly. My system hasn't crashed once while in the middle of something (I have, however, fucked up my system post update and without a Time shift backup ready to go which merited a full reinstall - but it's been a good learning experience overall)

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Linux machines don't crash unexpectedly, because if they do, it's your fault for configuring it wrong and you should have expected it.

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

Windows machines don't crash unexpectedly because it's Microsoft and you should have expected it.

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since when did the Blue Screen concept change from being an actual error screen to simply the Windows update screen?

I'm guessing shortly after Windows began implementing aforementioned update screen?

This is the first I've heard it referred to as the Blue Screen.

For reference: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_screen_of_death

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I think the whole thing might be a joke? πŸ˜€

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've had a black screen of death on Mint. All I was trying to do was crop a video on kdenlive. It black screened on me and somehow even messed up the boot menu so that my Mint was showing up as just Ubuntu. I went straight back to Shotcut after that. I really wanted to switch from Windows to Linux, but so far, Linux, or at least Mint, really hates me. Up till recently, I was still using Mint for my music storage, but it has trouble even moving files onto my phone now. I've pretty much given up.

[–] far_university190@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if want to diagnose black screen, can use sudo journalctl -S "TIME" to see journal since TIME ("X min ago", timestamp, etc.). may have message on error.

can try syncthing to move file to/from phone

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Journal won't be helpful in case of kernel panics.

[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd literally rather risk losing everything to a blue screen than use something arcane, deliberately difficult to use, unnecessarily complicated and bereft of any interesting or useful programs.

Linux is great for niche scenarios, like software development, but horrible for most daily use and any critic who pretends otherwise is ignorant or lying.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Windows is making it more a'd more annoying to keep using it and Linux is becoming more and more user friendly

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

99 percent of the time I've had to deal with a bsod in Windows, it was a bad driver (Intel controllerless Wi-Fi, for one) or a software issue (Malwarebytes Premium or Kaspersky + insert networking app here). Sometimes it's a hardware problem (stupid ASUS laptops with builtin RAM), and rarely, a bad disk clone (gotta do that bcdboot)

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