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[–] gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 95 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This reticence to give out CHIPS Act funding right away apparently stemmed from fears from the government that Intel specifically would not meet its promises. “[There is fear that] Intel is going to take chips money, build an empty shell of a factory and then never actually open it, because they don’t have customers,” said former Commerce Department official Caitlin Legacki.

Honestly this seems like rare reasonable move by the federal government.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, 'take the money, build an empty factory' is what tech companies do when you give them a money helicopter.

Maybe we should stop giving them any money and just nationalize these failed businesses that need bailouts? (Yes, yes, Intel isn't failed - yet - but my point is still valid.)

If they're important to the national security or whatever, then they're important enough to go through that process for too.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago

"We took your $8.5 billion and instead of building 8.5 billion dollars worth of extra capacity, we built the capacity we were in the process of building anyway and used 8.5 billion dollars of our money to buy back stock"

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 17 points 4 days ago

I am a bit shocked they got a back bone left...

There is more to this story.

Endless state aid while peasants are being driven into poverty finally being recognized but the state?

Jk

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 days ago

Thanks. I was hoping someone would shed light in the comments.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 89 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The U.S. government put some objectives between CHIPS Act recipients and their money, with milestones including completing building projects, securing customers, etc. “Obviously, with elections, you know, nigh in front of us, hey, we want this done,” said Gelsinger, with the possibility of a new presidential regime lighting a fire of urgency.

Imagine having to do something for your 8.5 billion fucking dollars.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why won't the government just give them the money and trust that they'll do what they said? It worked out great paying companies to roll out fiber years ago, that's why we're all on reliable, high speed fiber internet today.

[–] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As someone who works in the telecommunications industry, look up RDOF.

Not only is it a HUGE timeline that does nothing to incentivize actually completing a project early, but the main RDOF winner in my area has only wireless service available with zero construction projects planned except to put up more wireless equipment.

It also means those areas that company claims they’ll serve one day are ineligible for any more grant money and now that companies that are willing to bring fiber to those homes have to pay a boatload out of pocket while the RDOF winner just hangs out and watches.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 4 days ago

When the government is spineless, this is what the corpos do.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 4 days ago

Thank you daddy

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Imagine having to Actually do something instead of just saying we plan to do this, money plz.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, what are these guys? Cable companies?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 4 days ago

nATaiNaL SCuRitY

[–] the_shitshow_never_ends@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 4 days ago

So they can buy back more shares

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

How is he supposed to make line go up if no free government moneys?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Entitled ceo demanding for corporate welfare.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm so sick of these welfare queens crying all the time.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago

They even kill babies (startup competitors). They don't deserve the handout.

Hey gelsinger, how about stop doing all those stock buybacks, you fucking tool

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now he knows how us regular people feel when we have to fight insurance and the doctor’s billing office to get them to code/process the claim correctly and keep calling to bug them for the refund check and it still takes over a year. Welcome to the real word.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, I guess he gets a tiny fraction of that, since this won't ruin his company or him financially for the rest of his life if it doesn't work out, nor does he actually put in the work any further than a phone call that his assistant sets up. The rest is all done by various departments, all he does is wait for an email saying it's been recieved.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

That’s a great point. Don’t want the poor whittle CEOs to have to actually do any work for their ridiculous salaries.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

this won't ruin his company or him financially for the rest of his life if it doesn't work out

It wouldn't be the only thing but I think there's a nonzero chance that something like this is one key step in a spiral that forces Intel into bankruptcy. Their inability to get their foundry business off the ground currently threatens their long term prospects, and if they get stuck in a place where the government won't trust them because they don't have customers, and the customers won't trust them because they don't have the money, then that might truly lead to the end of the company, with his business decisions taught in business schools as a case study.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Has he tried to stop sucking?

Maybe just admit that the only reason he's still the CEO of anything is because of DOD contracts and STFU.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

If a company needs so much from the tax payer to stay afloat, to me that means they can't be trusted with money since they mismanage already, or they don't have a marketable product to sell. Any payouts should equal government ownership

[–] grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Grown man on his knees begging

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Grown man on his knees "begging"

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

'Tis the season (Locktober)

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Looks like he don't think Trump is going to pay.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. I can understand being nervous that Putin won't approve spending money on national defense investments.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

national defense investments.

Wierd way to name a cash transfer. Is US Treasury taking equity stake for their contribution here?

Asking for a friend

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's 2024. National defense infrastructure isn't just oil and steel anymore, it's silicon.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 4 days ago

Will US recieve equity position for their "investment"

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Get in line intel I'm still waiting for my 1200 from covid

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am still living off mine

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep, haven't had to work since I got my covid stimulus. Been on vacation ever since.

[–] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I own three houses and rent out two others thanks to my $1200 stimulus check.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Dang, guess I should have invested mine like you instead of putting it toward student loans.

[–] gassygiant@discuss.online 2 points 4 days ago

I bought GME with mine. RIP

[–] Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You paid off debt? How do you ever expect to get ahead doing that?

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago

Well my goal is more of a "get out" than "get ahead." But maybe that attitude is why I'm not more of a winner.

[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 9 points 4 days ago

Lets not pay them a dime and then nationalize them lol

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

"My simple message is, 'Boost share price before I get shown the door,'" said Gelsinger in an interview with the New York Times.