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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/21198558

Missouri’s attorney general has renewed a push to restrict access to the abortion pill mifepristone, arguing in a lawsuit filed this month that its availability hurt the state by decreasing teenage pregnancy.

The revised lawsuit was filed by Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, alongside GOP attorneys general in Kansas and Idaho. It asks a judge in Texas to order the Federal Drug Administration to reinstate restrictions on mifepristone, one of two medications prescribed to induce chemical abortions.

The trio of attorneys general were forced to refile the litigation after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the original lawsuit after concluding the original plaintiffs — a group of anti-abortion doctors and medical organizations — did not have standing to sue because they couldn’t show they had been harmed.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 points 34 minutes ago

Fucking lol, wtf

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 27 minutes ago

Ah yes, teen pregnancies, the true driver of the GDP. How could I forget? 😂

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 45 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I.......what?

I don't even understand what's being argued. Usually I can argue against a stance, because I see their logic and disagree with it.

In this case, I don't even get the logic.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 8 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (2 children)

I'm confused how you don't see the logic. It says right there.

He claims that the lost "potential population" from teen parents will cost the state revenue and political representation.

A person pays taxes. Less people = less tax income. More people = more tax income.

It's entirely idiotic, but it's not hard to understand?

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 27 minutes ago

I guess from an ultra-rightwing christian fundamentalist perspective, abused post-pregnancy teens are what you want. They're the easily impregnable (in all senses of the word) future hardline voters.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 44 minutes ago

You phrased that way too tame for how they're thinking about it.

More teen pregnancies = more mouths to feed = poverty = more wage slaves

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 49 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Simple: they're now mask off about wanting women to become de facto brood mares and house slaves before they turn 20.

#JustFascistStuff

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Is that the legit reason? I mean, in the times I grew up in, I would assume you're being dramatic to prove a point.

But it's 2024......the absurd is reality. What you said has just as real of a chance at being true as anything else with these people.

Trump is over here talking about using the American military against American citizens for being against him. Meanwhile republican voters are in pure denial that he would ever do that, despite him saying so. Word for word. AND he has attempted to do exactly that in the past.

So I don't have the luxery of being able to use common sense to dismiss things as being not credible to be reality. We live in the dumbest timeline. You could make up any dumb shit, and I have no way of dismissing it as being too dumb to be real.

"Hey, Trump just shot Kamala Harris with a gun on stage at a debate"

And the ONLY thing that makes that stand out as obviously false is the fact that trump is too scared to debate now.

This is the time we live in.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Is that the legit reason? I mean, in the times I grew up in, I would assume you're being dramatic to prove a point.

Have you considered that you always misunderstood people's goals and they were actually trying to warn you of this exact coming situation?

This isn't some stupid timeline, it's the result of 50 years of very specific effort by the right that the people you thought were being dramatic were just plainly warning you about with the appropriate level of urgency.

I really don't understand how in the face of all this people still choose to bury their heads in the sand.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

Why do you think they’re going after contraception next?

[–] meneervana@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wait Trump is talking about using the military against American citizens??? (Maybe I missed this, I am Dutch so I don't watch American news all day)

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] meneervana@lemm.ee 1 points 42 minutes ago (2 children)

Do you think he will actually do that, or is it just an empty threat?

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 2 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

He would do it pretty sure.

He say out loud everything that he will be and want to be and those dumb fuck still vote for him so i can't find a reason why he would not

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 2 points 26 minutes ago

I must add i'm from Canada not the US but we can't escape US news here and a big part of Canadian dumb fuck want trump to be their president too

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago

He would 100% try. He tried last time. Whether the chain of command below him actually does it is a different matter.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Is that the legit reason

With a very high degree of certainty, yes. They've really tripled down against women's rights and for returning to the 50s (1850s, that is) in recent years and saying shit like this out loud, rather than being ashamed of privately thinking it, is completely in step with that tendency.

I mean, in the times I grew up in, I would assume you're being dramatic to prove a point

I know exactly what you mean!

I'm not old enough to remember the Reagan years clearly, but was growing aware of US politics a few years before Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich really kick started GOP's turn towards more and more demagoguery and extremism.

With the Dems utterly failing to stop them pulling the Overton window ever rightward and the well-established GOP policy of ignoring or denying any inconvenient truth, the current fascist lunacy was sadly the inevitable outcome.

"Hey, Trump just shot Kamala Harris with a gun on stage at a debate"

And the ONLY thing that makes that stand out as obviously false is the fact that trump is too scared to debate now.

This is the time we live in.

Yup 😮‍💨

As a little bonus info in case you don't loathe him already: this is also the AG who tried to block the release of at least two exonerated death row inmates in the last few months.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

We need more teen pregnancies because we need more babies to become low wage grunts to work and pay into our social services systems so old people can retire…?

I assume it's similar to the argument Texas or Alabama or whoever used to argue they have standing against federal student loan forgiveness.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

From the article:

...the attorneys general contend access to mifepristone has lowered “birth rates for teenaged mothers,” arguing it contributes to causing a population loss for the states along with “diminishment of political representation and loss of federal funds.”

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think the population loss in these states is directly related the totalitarian theocratic governments that have been scaring people into leaving.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah. Same. There no nuance to this at all. The quiet thing was said far more than just simply out loud.

It was shrieked from the mountain tops.