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[–] self@awful.systems 60 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I love Blade Runner, but I don’t know if we want that future. I believe we want that duster he’s wearing, but not the, uh, not the bleak apocalypse.

there’s nothing more painful than when capitalists think they understand cyberpunk

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

"Wow, this film is bleak, we sure don't want that," said the wealthiest man in the world while spending tens of millions of dollars campaigning for an authoritarian just to enrich himself further via regulatory capture.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk is when cool coat*

*said coat is a trench coat, not a duster

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

…huh, you’re right (for the movie — the shitty AI image is a bad amalgamation of a trench coat and something like the shoulders of a duster). maybe the fucker was thinking of fallout or some shit.

and now I’ve convinced myself to go dig up my duster

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This wasn’t from a place of knowledge. I made a social read. Musk is absolutely the type to call a trilby a fedora and feel smug about it; I extrapolated from that.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and the sequel, 2 Blade 2 Run

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Blade and the Runner: Tokyo Drift is my favorite

…ok I’m fucking saving that for an RPG campaign I haven’t written yet

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

Run Blade, the prequel

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

so I just fucking realized, this asshole wasn’t originally going to bring up the duster but he panicked. here’s the original, so much better-looking photo he ripped off:

and the spinner (a VTOL car) in that, viewed from the back, looks a lot like something he knocked off for the design of his shitty cybercab, including how the doors open and its general shape and color (though the latter’s due to the scene’s color grading if memory serves, but musk ain’t smart), though the cybercab doesn’t have any of the design elements that make the Blade Runner car interesting because of course it doesn’t, it was designed by a creatively bankrupt billionaire from someone else’s work

so that spinner’s missing in Musk’s generative AI ripoff of that image, because the model couldn’t make a spinner-like car that didn’t look fucked up. and that’s why the AI image has “NOT THIS” hastily applied in one corner and he had to change his speech from “I believe we want that car” (followed by revealing supposedly “that car”) to “I believe we want that duster”

unbelievably lazy, but not unexpected

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 27 points 1 month ago (8 children)

NEW MISSION: we must show Elon Musk "Naked Lunch" so his next car is a cyber cockroach typewriter

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 20 points 1 month ago

Silicon Valley is proud to announce the man who taught his asshole to talk, based on the hit William S. Burroughs story, "Don't be the man who taught his asshole to talk."

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

a Tesla that gets an erection when you drive it. by the visionary elon musk

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay, personal thoughts:

This is just gut instinct, but it feels like generative AI is going to end up becoming a legal minefield once the many lawsuits facing OpenAI and others wrap up. Between the likes of Nashville's ELVIS Act, the federal bill for the COPIED Act, the solid case for denying Fair Use protection, and the absolute flood of lawsuits coming down on the AI industry, I suspect gen-AI will come to be seen by would-be investors as legally risky at best and a lawsuit generator at worst.

Also, Musk would've been much better off commissioning someone to make the image he wanted rather than grabbing a screencap Aicon openly said he was not allowed to use and laundering it through some autoplag. Moral and legal issues aside, it would have given something much less ugly to look at.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 19 points 1 month ago

Also, Musk would’ve been much better off commissioning someone to make the image he wanted rather than grabbing a screencap Aicon openly said he was not allowed to use

Well, Musk is famously great at taking a no as an answer.

[–] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 17 points 1 month ago

We've also already seen internal documents from nVidia executives directing their employees to violate the CFAA, and it would be naive to think they were the only company knowingly and willfully violating federal law to get their llms up to functionality.

Never forget that Aaron was hounded to death for doing similar, but at a far smaller scale and for the benefit of humanity

[–] self@awful.systems 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

holy fuck, the event was held at the Warner Bros lot because Musk and whoever’s balls he’s buttering at WB assumed that would mean he could use the Blade Runner still without licensing it (via The Verge):

Though WBD owns some licensing rights for Blade Runner 2049, because the event would be live-streamed internationally, clearance for the images had to come from Alcon directly. And when Alcon’s legal and licensing departments were made aware of the situation, they sent back a firm refusal to the interested parties “so that there would be no mistakes in the conduct of the event.”

Along with the larger copyright infringement, Alcon also says it was never made privy to any of the agreements between Tesla and WBD that would have been necessary before the We, Robot event. Along with giving Tesla the ability to use Warner Bros.’ lot and equipment, Alcon believes that agreement also included a promotional element that “allowed or possibly even required Tesla expressly to affiliate the Cybercab with one or more motion pictures” from the studio’s catalog.

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 1 month ago

@self @dgerard overwhelming "We bought the Jodorowski book so we can now make a Dune movie" energy

[–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

It's somewhat orthogonal to most subjects discussed here, but the eventual WBD bankruptcy auction is going to be a prime source of lols

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Iron man 1 came out and he had his PR team work around the clock to convince everyone he was the real life Tony Stark.

My pet theory is that Robert Downey Jr is the reason Elon musk is as successful as he is.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My pet theory is that Robert Downey Jr is the reason Elon musk is as successful as he is.

Considering RDJ's role as Tony Stark seems to have given Musk the template he used for his public rise to fame, you may be on to something.

[–] self@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

it’s almost definitely the reason why Musk keeps making utterly cringe cameos in sci-fi shit, starting with Iron Man 2 and continuing on to Star Trek: Discovery and (of fucking course) Rick & Morty, and a bunch of other weird shit like the Saturday Night Live episode that was just propaganda. his former PR team very likely set up whatever price point worked for the studios so Musk could pay for a cameo, and Musk loved it so much he kept doing it after he fired that team.

what’s fucking bizarre is the Iron Man writers seem to swear their version of Tony Stark was based on Musk, and we know now Musk’s nothing like that. so looking back with more seasoned eyes: how much of the first Iron Man was just propaganda too? of course there’s all the libertarian shit — whose idea was all that, actually?

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

what’s fucking bizarre is the Iron Man writers seem to swear their version of Tony Stark was based on Musk, and we know now Musk’s nothing like that. so looking back with more seasoned eyes: how much of the first Iron Man was just propaganda too? of course there’s all the libertarian shit — whose idea was all that, actually?

You want my suspicion, Marvel were probably taking their cues from the public image SpaceX/Tesla's marketing and/or Musk's PR team had put out about the guy - as an eccentric genius par excellence who'd save humanity from global warming and/or get us to Mars.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

I wish I could remember who it was who said that out of all those inane cameos, Iron Man 2 is the only one that makes sense, because Tony Stark at his most boozy, self-indulgent and self-destructive would invite Musk to a party.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tony Stark treats him like a Putz in Iron Man 2. Not sure that's what Musk was going for.

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it’s really bizarre how obviously forced the propaganda is, looking back:

  • the cameo’s very short and not very flattering — Tony’s written as close to blowing Musk off as they could probably manage, and they definitely weren’t giving him more than the bare minimum screen time he paid for
  • part of the deal was they got to film in the Tesla factory, so it’s the bad guy’s base and it looks (to my memory, it’s been a minute since I’ve seen Iron Man 2) boring as fuck, like nobody really wanted to film there

given how utterly, sickly-sweet positive his latter cameos are, Musk was probably pissed at his Iron Man 2 cameo and had a few new clauses written into his contract with the studios going forward. as for why the crew’s attitude toward Musk seemed to change between the first and second films, my theory is: according to reputation and second-hand experience, Musk has always been a fucking asshole in person. he probably burned out the crew’s good will quickly, and they just wanted to be rid of him.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it was SpaceX, not Tesla, but yeah... boring AF warehouse.

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

it takes craft to make a rocket lab look boring, assuming it was intentional and not the result of an adult coming into the room and reminding Musk that none of the government secrets should be on film

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

part of the deal was they got to film in the Tesla factory

Wait he pulled a Trump?

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

pretty much! for a very similar length and style of cameo too

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

No one wants to hang out with their dealer more than is absolutely necessary.

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now I wonder if Musk calling the diver "pedo guy" was him thinking "yeah, this is exactly what Tony Stark would say to the bad guy" because he doesn't understand media literacy even a little bit. (More likely, it's just him being the regular type of weird we've come to expect from him)

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

like Matt Mullenweg trying to figure out what Ghandi would do

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

Launch all the nukes?

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Then force him to read Dune and make him understand the Butlerian Jihad

[–] ChefKalash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I recall him and Grimes being Dune nerds, but only the imperial fantasy part of it

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago

Honestly, knowing Musk’s MO of huffing his own farts, I’d have thought he’d be into the stillsuits of it all

[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

he'll think he can breed the kwizatz hadderach

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"So you're, eh, saying I can, emmm, emmm, become god, right, emmm, ehh, if I snort the, ummm, correct drugs?"

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

honestly this sounds like the worst trip possible

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He'll just watch the movie and bribe a CIA run terrorist cell to nuke the middle east.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea who would want to live in a dusty, arid, brown and yellow wasteland city like that? Certainly not the "Occupy Mars" guy.

The dark theme is nice, btw.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

His recent attempts to get involved in politics must've been inspired by Duck Soup.

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why hasn't he attempted to make a robotic owl yet? Poser...

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Now construct the rest of the fucking androwl

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

This implies the owl is a man, not a robot! It should be a strigiformoid!

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[–] BasiqueEvangelist@mstdn.social 9 points 1 month ago

@zogwarg as somebody who is a fan of owls, oh god please no

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Let's hope no1 tells him bout 'Soylent Green'.

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