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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Another vote for Linux Mint. I finally switched from Windows 10 months ago and I love it.

I'm really enjoying the learning curve with Linux because I'm not always fighting the operating system. On the other hand, every time I've had to go "under the hood" with Windows (edit the Registry, change config files) it's been to stop Microsoft from doing something sh*tty to me.

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 minutes ago

Rofl relatable. Me when i was trying to force uninstall edge or turn off windows activation logo

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They should be required to release drivers such that massive e-waste wasn't generated suddenly. I mean, why does the government allow a software company to own an monopolize the hardware? Hello Google! Good luck 🤞 with the monopoly assholes!

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think that any operating system that mostly runs 3rd party software should be legally required to open-source at least the components necessary to run said 3rd party software. Also, OSes should just straight up not be allowed to show ads, full-stop. Making people buy hardware and then bloating the OS with ads in updates is a bait and switch and if our government had any balls, would be illegal.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

Not to mention that we pay for the bandwidth they use to show us ads. Like WTF! Since when did NBC as people to chip in for them to show us McDonald's commercials?

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

If Linux didn't exist, we would actually end up with a lot of e-waste, and I mean a fuck ton of it. And it's all thanks to you, Microsoft.

Hell, Linux does exist, and people just don't wanna use it because they're so used to Windows that anything else is basically as steep of a learning curve as a literal cliff. And to those people I say: "just add some mint on it and life will be easy. Maybe even drizzle some cinnamon on it as well"

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Linux is in a weird spot, there is a valley you must not be in with it.

If you are a non-technical person who needs only a browser and solitaire, it's perfect.

If you are a highly technical person, it's great.

If you're just in between, you are fucked.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Trying to get games to run without being a Linux pro is much harder than I was led to believe. Some games just work out of the box, but a lot of them absolutely do NOT, even if protondb says they will.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

The Steam Deck is trying to make Linux gaming more hassle-free, but it's not like we've reached that stage yet. Still, we're taking steps.

[–] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Started using linux mint 22 since 2 months great experience. Difficult with some software with wine winetricks and bottles and stuff. I'm not in any tech field. Learnt from YouTube. Still more to learn... But it's fun to figuring things out and chatgpt

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

I'm a recent Mint user as well. The transition felt pretty seamless so far.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've installed Linux mint cinnamon on some PCs for other people. It's okay. I still run into errors and difficulties but for your average non techie person it might work if someone else gets them started.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

That alone is a great introduction to Linux.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The only reason I'm on 10 with my main pc is because the 7th gen intel in there isn't compatible with win11. I have another pc that is 7th gen, which I put windows 11 on and there is just something weird about it. When I do anything on that machine it doesn't do it immediately, it sits for a few seconds before actions are done. Really aggravating. Clicking on a program on the taskbar takes a few seconds before it opens. File explorer, firefox browser, settings pane, ... Once programs are running it's fine to use said programs, but I wonder what they did to make it feel this way.

I have Linux on both machines as primary OS and they are super snappy, it's not the hardware.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I had Windows 10 on an older (but not ancient) machine and it was literally unusable. 10-15 minute boot time and another 5 or so just to get a browser to open. The misery didn't end once things were open; everything was still slower than when I had windows 7 on what would now be considered a truly ancient machine. I put Linux on it and experienced a roughly 5x speedup.

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How much RAM do the systems have? 8gb? The delay may be in the system making room in ram for the program. Win11 is so ram hungry. It's stupid.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

They both have 16GB RAM.

The one with Windows 10 has a i5 7600k and GTX1060

The one with Windows 11 has a i7 7700k and GTX1080

Both with nvme ssd storage samsung evo (cant remember which exactly). The 7600k machine even has hdds and ssds via sata extra.

[–] Warjac@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

Yeah it's convincing people that Windows 11 is actually good

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Three years ago, I bought my wife a laptop with Windows 10 to replace her 10yo windows 7 machine.

It had hardware issues out of the box, and went in on two repairs. It works fine now, AFAIK.

But, she still doesn't trust it, and she doesn't think that she can move her Adobe CS6 license over to it..

I even bought her the affinity suite.

I'm starting to think she'll never move on from Windows 7.

I think the major browsers stopped supporting it sometime during the last year, so my best hope is that some included certificates will eventually make her favourite websites stop working. That has to force her over to something more recent.. right?

I use arch, btw.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

up vote for arch.

I also use arch btw.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago
[–] agelord@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

https://github.com/win32ss/supermium

Here is a relatively up to date Chromium fork that supports Windows XP and newer (I am not affiliated with the project btw)

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

I'll keep that secret from her 😅

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I use Win10 for one single program only and I'm currently testing on how to take that machine offline, but still be accessible locally. So far all I got is a blacklist regex in pihole. Blocking internet access to that machine via my router does not work for me, as I dual boot that machine with Linux for gaming. Tips per DM are very welcome actually.

[–] undu@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Make Linux use a random MAC address, then block the physical MAC in the DHCP section of the router'e configuration. This will make Windows unablento recieve an IP address while Linux will be able to get ahold of one.

If windows uses tandom mac addresses, the feature should be able to be turned off.

Or, simply disable the network interfaces in Windows' control panel. I've never seen Windows reenable a network card by itself.

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 16 hours ago

Two options:

  • Change the DNS and gateway so they're pointing to 0.0.0.0
  • Give the Windows install a static IP or lease, and block that IP on the router
[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Static IP on the windows machine in a jail'd subnet, if you still want to be able to access it from the LAN but don't want it to have internet access.

If you're happy with it not having any kind of network access (I'm not sure if when you say 'locally' you mean just physically, or it needs LAN as well), just disable the network adapter in windows.

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[–] Loce@lemmy.world 44 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

Well fuck Win 11, its a fucking downgrade. At Win 10 EOL I'm going back to linux.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

You and the rest of Lemmy.

[–] Capitao_Duarte@lemmy.eco.br 23 points 22 hours ago

There are dozens of us!

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 253 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I mean, they could solve it by not making the mandatory successor an ad-laden, AI-infested, personal data harvesting, privacy-nightmare shit show. That would be a start. And also relax whatever the artificial requirement is that makes a lot of Win10 machines incompatible with 11.

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

I stopped following 11 news after they cancelled the native android framework, only thing that got me excited since a BlueStacks installation gets huge extremely fast, I'm not going.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (20 children)

I'm just waiting for the EOL of window 10 to see which of the following will happen:

  1. Many PCs will stop getting updates, people don't care
  2. Many PCs will be replaced for windows 11
  3. Turns out people already have replaced their PCs due to other reasons
  4. Microsoft removes the hardware requirements
  5. People switch to another OS
  6. People just don't buy a home PC anymore
  7. ????
  8. Profit???
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 8 hours ago

I'll save you the wait. It's 1 with quite a bit of 6.

Normal people just don't need PCs that much any more. Nearly everything that people did on a PC you can do on a phone.

If you can't do it on a phone, then it's usually called work, and employers can replace things as needed. Although we've still got customers using variants of Windows XP, so don't hold your breath. Some employers just aren't beholden to higher ups that demand security audits.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 9 hours ago

All those numbers will happen at the same time, at different proportions.

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[–] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft has a Windows 11 problem. Staying on Windows 10 is a symptom.

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