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An Israeli settler leader has told a conference on Israel's frontier with Gaza that Palestinians will "disappear" from the territory and said that thousands of people stand ready to move there "from north to south”.

Addressing a conference on Monday also attended by Israeli Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir and Knesset members from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries.

“We came here with one clear purpose: the purpose is to settle the entire Gaza Strip, not just part of it, not just a few settlements, the entire Gaza Strip from north to south,” said Weiss.

Weiss, the leader of Nachala, an orthodox settler movement which organised the conference, said there were six settler groups and more than 700 families looking to settle in Gaza, where more than 42,600 Palestinians have been killed since Israel launched its war against Hamas in October last year following the Hamas-led attacks in southern Israel.

Weiss’s comments were echoed by Ben Gvir, who later told the crowd: “We are the owners of the land”. Ben Gvir also called for Palestinians in Gaza to “voluntarily” transfer to other countries.

Monday’s conference, which was billed by organisers as “a celebration for the preparation of settling Gaza", took place near Reim kibbutz, with the sound of Israel’s ongoing bombardment of northern Gaza audible in the background and with smoke rising over the horizon a few kilometres to the west.

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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That's the plan. Look at the borders of Palestine over time. What Israel does speaks louder than what they say they are doing

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (6 children)

I never really understood what these "Settlers" are exactly doing. Do they just go to a House and be like "Yeah that's mine now, GTFO!" or are they building Homes on somebody else's Property? Or are they tearing down houses and building new ones for themselves? I never really understood how you can settle in an already developed place. Or all of the above?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I find it helps if you just call them "invaders".

I think you could only call yourself a settler if you went somewhere uninhabitable and made it livable. Antarctica maybe. I don't think "arable farmland right next door with brown people living on it" counts for much.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

From B'TSelem, an Israeli Human Rights Organization that has covered this since the 1960's:

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The state allows settlers to use land violently taken from Palestinians. Dozens of outposts and “farms” – settlements for all intents and purposes, which were built without authorization by the government and without plans that enable construction in them – receive support from Israeli authorities and remain standing. Israel has ordered the military to defend the outposts or paid for their security, as well as paved roads and laid down water and electricity infrastructure for most of them. It has provided support through various government ministries, the Settlement Division of the World Zionist Organization and regional councils in the West Bank. It has also subsidized financial endeavors in the outposts, including agricultural facilities, provided support for new farmers and for shepherding, allocated water and legally defended outposts in petitions for their removal.

The violent acts include beating, throwing stones, issuing threats, torching fields, destroying trees and crops, stealing crops, damaging homes and cars, blocking roads, using live fire, and, in rare cases, killing. Settlers from so-called farms violently chase Palestinian farmers and shepherds away from their fields, and from pastureland and water sources they have used for generations. They initiate violent altercations on a daily basis and use drones to scare flocks belonging to Palestinians into scattering.

https://www.btselem.org/settler_violence

[–] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They settle right next to existing Palestinian towns. Then surround them by expanding. Create better infrastructure. Then exclude the Palestinians and ensure they are treat as other or not equal.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That's the very best of situations. Ignoring that a majority are armed takeovers of occupied buildings.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 6 points 9 hours ago

When you have the Israeli military supporting you, you can do a lot of things.

[–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

First they blow up the place, flatten it, and then build their vacation homes on top of the people they killed.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I think most Israeli settlements were built in previously undeveloped places.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

That's like if some randos came to your area, built houses on the farmland around the town you live in, and then put up a wall preventing in your town from coming or going. It's a slow seige.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Previously undeveloped places that did not belong to Israel.

Forgot an important part there.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 hours ago

My comment was in no way a defense of Israeli settlement activity, which I find indefensible and the main obstacle to peace in the region. But to my understanding it is still factually correct that the land the settlements were built on didn't (at least for the most part) have any residents immediately before they were built.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 13 hours ago

Still can't be called a genocide, huh?

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago

The same way jews disappeared from Warsaw.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if any of this will at all backfire for Israel in the near future, especially considering they have the complete backing of the USA.

Serbia's genocide backfired when the Bosnians suddenly started covertly receiving ATGMs via Pakistan which changed the tide of the war.

I just don't see that happening here when Gaza doesn't even have a friendly/neutral neighbor to the south, let alone a country willing to actually help. Egypt doesn't even want to take refugees. Seems like Israel is just gonna steamroll ahead and we won't even learn the full extent of the genocide for several decades :/

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Things will change in smaller ways after the presidential election, when polititions have less to fear from aipac.

Longer term, as muslims from the region who live in the states have a more powerful voting block, the USs stance to Israel will also begin to change.

This is, and has always been, a generational paced thing.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (12 children)

This needs to be marked as another case in point for all the people who want to argue it's not a genocide.

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[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Sounds like bog standard language of ethnic cleansing to me. Still amazed how many people refuse to call a Nazi a Nazi.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope this cunt and all her friends are dragged through Nuremberg 2.0. "Never again", right guys?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Nononono..."never again" means "never again for Jews". Other genocides are a-okay.

[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 day ago

Tally Gotliv, a Likud MP, told MEE: “We need to occupy the complete land of Israel. There are no innocent people in Gaza. Everybody who has refused to leave the north is a collaborator.”

Monday's event took place against the backdrop of an escalating military assault on northern Gaza where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians remained trapped and subjected to daily air strikes.

The assault came amid reports from Israel that the military has started to implement a strategy known as “the Generals’ Plan” which called for the ethnic cleansing of the north of the territory, and condemnation by aid groups who warned last week that northern Gaza is being “erased”.

This is their plan. They're doing it right now. I can't imagine how folks will deny this, I guess they'll move onto justify.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This woman is evil. I'd like to "resettle" her to prison.

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[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Daniella Weiss called for Palestinians living in Gaza to be relocated to other countries.

Relocated to where? Israel? What she means is to kill them all, right?

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Presumably they don't especially care, as long as they're able to take their land

But I expect a lot of the refugees will go to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkiye, probably a handful to Egypt but from what I've heard the Egyptian border is pretty much closed

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

None of those countries want to take refugees tho

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 19 hours ago

Seems like she doesn’t care if they are killed or not. They just can’t occupy Gaza.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Remember in the Bible how Jews had no home for the entirety of history and then they went to Canaan and threw the Canaanites out?

That.

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