this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
270 points (99.3% liked)

News

23274 readers
3239 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Earlier preliminary results had indicted a majority "no," but a surge of ballots from abroad provided last-minute support for EU membership. The referendum comes amid allegations of Russia-backed voter fraud

With more than 99% of the votes counted, the "yes" vote for EU membership in Moldova's referendum was slightly ahead at 50.28%


only 8,000 votes more than the anti-EU camp.

Earlier, Moldovans appeared to have rejected plans for the former Soviet republic to add its goal of joining the EU to the constitution, according to preliminary results from 70% of ballots in the country's referendum from Sunday evening.

However, ballots from Moldovans living abroad were counted towards the end, giving the "yes" camp a last-minute push. 

A largely agricultural country of around 2.5 million people, Moldova has sought to cut ties with Moscow and move closer to the EU since Russia's invasion of neighboring Ukraine in 2022.

The former Soviet republic began EU membership talks in June.

top 18 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope russia lost a lot of bribe money on this.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

It's such a small country I doubt they lost enough to matter. They'll just buy a little less armor for their personnel carriers and call it a wash

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is why (are you watching America!) you should never judge results early or stop counting ballots.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“Stop the count!”

Why?

“Because I’m winning!”

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 8 points 3 weeks ago

Let’s see the first vote. Nah, it’s for the other guy. Otherwise we would have called it a day. Keep on counting until I’m just over 50%.

(14 votes later)

That’s it. I won! Stop counting the votes. You see, 8 out of 14 people say I should be the president. No need to check the remaining 40 million votes. We’re all good here.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

U.S. elections work differently. A Republican does not need to win the popular vote to win an election here. Our electoral college system heavily favors Republicans as it gives unfair weight to sparsely populated rural states.

If a Democrat wins the popular vote by that narrow of a margin, they have lost the election.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They sure do.

The point was that Orange Man and his followers were calling to stop the count when early votes and mail-in ballots were counted towards the end and made him lose swing states. He said something along the lines of "we were winning, and then they found these votes, and suddenly we were losing".

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 39 points 3 weeks ago

Good for them. I hope they don’t end up electing someone like Orban at some point.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This isn’t an actual accession to the EU though is it? Rather just Moldova altering its constitution to reflect an eventual desire to join?

[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's the first domino to fall of many.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hey welcome!

That's som fucking good news!!

Well done.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's with Transistria? That's fucked up state is like Donbas in Ukraine, a tab that was left to contest their independence from the russiasphere not letting them join any union. I think, as the 90s passed a long time ago, the only country that would be harmed by separation is that shithole itself, not Moldova, and the security of their border (and, probably, the EU border then) would depend on cutting them off completely.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

We'll figure it out as soon as kremlin collapses URSS-style in 2025/26.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is good news, although I wonder why they don't just vote to reunite with Romania instead. Moldova really doesn't need to be its own country. It basically exists because of Russian "separatists".

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm curious about this too. I'd be interested in a informed opinion by someone from Romania or Moldova that could share their insight.

[–] aicse@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is a really fragile topic, at least for moldovans and I'd say it is mostly due to ideological reasons. A lot of moldovans do not identify themselves as romanians and this is due to 2 main reasons:

  • Lots of them are not romainians, but descendants of relocated russians or other nations from USSR many of which to this date don't speak a word in Romanian;
  • USSR cultivated the idea that Moldovans are not Romaninas and that Moldova was there long before Romania (which is a stupid argument as Romania was formed after uniting multiple historical regions including Moldova);

Out of these reasons Moldova had and has a huge debate over the existence of Moldovan language, just recently the constitution was updated stating that the state official language is Romanian. Within Moldova at this point there is the Moldovan dialect which differs a lot from other Romanian dialects, even the Moldovan dialect from within Romania, where Moldovan dialect has a mixture of russian/ukranian words.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So, as I said, Moldova exists because of Russia's divide-and-conquer tactics. Moldavia/Moldova has been part of Romania or its earlier polities for at least 2000 years. This would be like a hypothetical Donbas Republic voting to join an EU of which Ukraine is already a member. Why not rejoin the country it was part of before Russian imperialism broke it apart?

The linguistic thing needn't be an issue. Multilingual countries aren't exactly rare in the EU.