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You always hear the phase “9 to 5” and also the song with the same name. Assuming you include 1 hour worth of breaks (30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks), you’re only working for 7 hours a day which comes up to 35 hours a week.

Now it feels like you have to work 8 hours a day (for a total of 40 hours of actual work), plus your other time off meaning you’re really there for 9 hours each day (for a total of 45 hours). Am i looking at that wrong, or did expected times change, and if so, when?

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am 51. When I started working my job was 9-5 with a one hour lunch an unofficial 30 minute coffee break and about four unofficial ten minute smoke breaks.

[–] pulverizedcoccyx@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's it like for you now?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My company went full time "work from home" in 2012 and we are specialists that are only brought in when everyone else has fucked up. So basically, I am on call 24/7/365.

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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Retired in a 3-bedroom home paid off that was purchased for $57,000.

/kidding

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're thinking boomer so you are off by ~20 years.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes. And if you interview for an 8 to 5 job, you tell them that it sounds like a crock of shit and you don't want the job.

So sick of that shit. Fuck any employer who pulls this shit.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

I don't WANT your crock of shit job! I'll go live on the streets!!! I'll give blowjobs for $20! And hey.....you want a blowjob? Got $20?

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[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a guy with an actual office job. It's usually 8-5 or 9-6 with an hour lunch, plus whatever time you spend on coffee or whatever.

It's pretty standard, and it's been that way for a couple decades at least.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

And that lunch hour is unpaid.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Where are you working where you are expected to work through your breaks? 9-5 should include your break times as well, yes.

[–] Steve@communick.news 63 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Most jobs I've had will schedule 8-430/9-530/etc, so that you work a full 8 hours but you have a 30min mandatory unpaid lunch break. The two 15 min breaks are paid, but they were also "discouraged."

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[–] JackLSauce@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Different jobs are different

Sorry for rambling

[–] azdle@news.idlestate.org 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It has definitely changed, I don't know when, but it's been like this for at least the last decade.

Though, in my experience (NB: I'm a software engineer, which is a notoriously lax field.) only what the piece of paper says has changed. Hell, most of my employee handbooks have claimed that "full time" is 50 hours a week. They get away with it because I'm classified as a "computer employee" (lol) and make more than $35k/year (super lol) which means my employment is exempted from minimum wage and overtime pay laws.

Nobody that I know actually works that consistently. Most people I know don't even do 40. I do 9-5 (or 8:30-4:30 usually), I take breaks when I need them and nobody has ever complained to me about the amount I'm working.

My only guess for why it's this way is that having that be the official working time means it's easier to fire anyone for no reason because they're not working their "contractually obligated" amount of time.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 15 hours ago

50 hours per week is a lot. Ive been a lot of places where you'd get scolded if you said you worked only 40 hours per week, but usually 42 was acceptable.

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[–] criitz@reddthat.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I work in a salaried office job in the US, and in 2 decades of working at different companies I've always worked 9 to 5 AND taken an hour lunch. Of course, I've also had plenty of pressure to work outside of those hours when needed. Which escalated to 50-60 hour weeks with night and weekend work at the worst (I left that job shortly after).But I've never done 9 to 6 as official hours.

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[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Your math ain't mathing.

The stereotypical "9 to 5" is an 8 hour shift with a paid hour "lunch break". This includes two 10-15 minute breaks, which are also paid. You come to work at 9, do work, take breaks, take lunch, and then leave at 5. That's 8 hours.

My job is 8 to 430. I come in at 8, work till 12, then I have a half hour unpaid lunch. The unpaid lunch means I cannot be required to stay on site, which can happen with a paid lunch. Then from 1230 to 430 I work until I go home. There are two 10 minute paid breaks in there. I work 8 hours total in an 8.5 hour work day.

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