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[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

how did lemmy piracy suddenly turn to defending nintendo...

nintendo pulls rom sites down, sure - it's their shit (https://www.pcworld.com/article/402404/nintendo-suit-rom-emulation-game-preservation.html)

Nintendo is using roms from these sites to sell to consumers within their own "ecosystem" (https://www.eurogamer.net/did-nintendo-download-a-mario-rom-and-sell-it-back-to-us)

Not even close to all of nintendos titles are avaliable on their online stores, and the mini-snes or whatever did not have even close to all their titles.

point is. Nintendo is NOT preserving their own games. And they sue anyone doing anything like preserving it for the public.

[–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Then please explain the Dolphin Emulator to me

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

what? whaddya mean? the fact that it exists?

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/05/the-solid-legal-theory-behind-nintendos-new-emulator-takedown-effort/

or the fact that nintendo doesn't want it to "spread" Come here without defending big megacorpo or leave please

[–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

That literally says theory in the title

This isn't even your instance and you are telling me to leave lmao

do you think they make the games on consoles as well.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 157 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It sued itself in its confusion!

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 days ago

This isn't very effective.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 80 points 3 days ago (2 children)

LMAO. Fuck Nintendo and the "do as I say not as I do" BS.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Emulation is perfectly legal if you own the game.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

And yet Nintendo files bogus copyright claims against emulators.

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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 25 points 3 days ago

~~do as I say not as I do~~

Nintendo: Money! Fuck everything else.

All other attributes derive from that.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago

Someone call Alanis Morisette 🤣

[–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This really isn't that surprising. They used ROMs for the classic games in Animal Crossing. They even had evidence it was from a release group, and not Nintendo's own copies

I really don't understand why this is embarrassing. I don't know the exact setup they have going on. Is it like a kiosk where people can play classic games, or is it a monitor just displaying them? They have their own emulator, Canoe, that they used for the SNES Classic. I don't remember the name of the NES one

Weren't at least some of the games in the Super Mario Collection ROMs? I guess I can see why people would expect a direct port from the company that created it, or original hardware running the original games, but it isn't like Nintendo doesn't already have a track record for this sort of thing

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 3 days ago (18 children)

It's embarrassing because of how extremely litigious Nintendo is, and that they are themselves profiting using other people's work (emulators and/or ROMs acquired from the internet), the exact thing they ruin lives over.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

I would have thought its embarrasing that they couldnt provide real hardware for an official museum

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[–] BonerMan@ani.social 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This means you can find the pc and get THEIR OWN EMULATOR, make it open source and fuck them royally.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You think they wrote their own emulator instead of just taking one of the free ones on the internet (who they will likely sue later). That's cute.

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 22 points 3 days ago

Well yes, yes they did. It is called Canoe and is for example running inside the SNES Classic Mini. And that is not the only emulator they wrote. Writing an emulator is not some obscure magic, and it is way easier if you own all the schematics and other Information used to build the original hardware.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's not how any of that works

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Implying they have their own emulator and it's not just running retroarch or something

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 49 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Their NES and SNES mini consoles were also just off the shelf ARM SBCs running emulators. If I recall correctly people even found signatures of release groups in some of the ROMs.

[–] SitD@lemy.lol 16 points 3 days ago

technicians just know what's good. unfortunately every company becomes too big for its own good and inspirationless ghouls take over 😔 the palworld thing also just shows they could be so successful if they take off the shackles and make a good game, but now they want to shackle everyone else so no one can have good games

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What's so embarrassing? Emulation for backward compatibility is done all the times

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago

Thst they use windows, ew

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I guess people are assuming it runs whatever third party emulator. It was at least how I first imagined it.

If that's the case, it's in my opinion very embarrassing: attempting to profit from stuff made by the community they act extremely hostile towards.

If not, I guess it's just mildly embarrassing that they have a poorly concealed windows machine taking away from the immersion.

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[–] BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Because Nintendo really really hates people who emulate their games

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 9 points 3 days ago

It would be interesting to plug an usb rubber duckie to own that station and dump all the disk somewhere

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