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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Intelligent people leave a space of about two cars ahead of them on the freeway.

Stupid people think that space must be for them.

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Two car lengths isn't even remotely enough space if you're traveling at high speeds.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I follow the 3 second rule and try to keep 3 seconds of travel distance between me and the car in front of me

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

This is it. Absolute minimum two seconds in perfect conditions, four if it's raining/dark/whatever.

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[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Intelligent people leave a whole fucking lot more than just two car lengths.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 103 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The gap you leave should be speed-dependent and about 2 seconds to allow for reaction time. Yes, this caps the highway's capacity to 0.5 cars per second per lane but roads are inherently inefficient.

[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Aye, and 2 seconds is the bare minimum. A company I have worked for wanted 4 seconds between you and the car in front. That always felt a little much, but it definitely helped prevent wrecks.

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was taught to look when the car in front drives past a landmark like a lamppost, then say to myself "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"

If you pass the lamppost before you finish saying it, you're too close

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Lord I hate those fucking cunts who see two car lengths of space as an invitation. I'm going 85, you're going 75, don't suddenly hop in front of me because the clown in front of you is going 70.

[–] BilliamBoberts@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I leave enough room for me to have time to react and give the person behind me enough time to react to my breaking. Because most people drive way too close to avoid a rear-end collision if I have to slam my breaks for an emergency. Sometimes that means I'm 4, 5 or 6 car lengths away from the car in front of me, but that has the added benefit of pissing off tailgators who will almost immediately choose to pass me which works out great for me. The less space the person behind gives, the more space I leave between me and the person in front.

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[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

When i was 13 bill Clinton told me 1 car length per every 10mph i was traveling at. Ive been following that advice ever since

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 87 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you're only two lengths away from the car in front of you while driving at highway speeds, you are tailgating. Back off. It's far more dangerous than speeding.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Help me out with this, because it's driving me crazy. Whenever I leave anywhere close to 2 seconds between me and the car on front of me, someone cuts in, and I'm now too close to them, so I slow down, leaving a 2 second gap, and another cuts in. Rinse, repeat. I end up being the slow ass that everyone keeps zooming around unless I tailgate.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It just be that way. Idiots will see your safe following distance as their opportunity to switch lanes. Just keep being the safe one.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Just... Don't care? Let people in and adjust the distance with them. Driving is an involved process, get a car with adaptive cruise control if you want one that will do exactly that for you.

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[–] seth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I always heard "2 seconds of space" which is a lot more than a few car lengths, to give yourself time to react to both what's in front of you and to the sides, and account for if their brakes perform better than yours. Two seconds of distance is a lot, though, and kind of impractical in traffic.

[–] placatedmayhem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The recommendation changed from car lengths to seconds decades ago, but wasn't well communicated fwict. I learned car lengths from my dad and then seconds when I got my motorcycle endorsement.

If everyone were leaving 2 seconds of space, it also reduces stop and go traffic that is caused, or at least exacerbated, by the traffic wave phenomenon. But that's even less well socialized.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I just moved to Michigan

I have never seen a group of drivers so committed to Tail Gateing .... Like it's the state sport

[–] lengau@midwest.social 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Visit Tennessee and get back to me. Moving from Tennessee to Michigan I noticed a distinct uptick in the quality of driving.

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[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

3 seconds is the minimum safe distance, regardless of speed

[–] computerscientistII@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What is this in imperial? How many bullets per square-child?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Depends, African or European?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

3 seconds from you to get to where the other car was previously.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Should be at least 5 car lengths on the highway

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

You can't do this in LA, but LA fucking sucks so fuck 'em haha.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (23 children)

I think my biggest pet peeve about driving is when you come to a stop and the car behind you tries to shove their nose up your ass. Like bruh you don't need to ever be that close

[–] OR3X@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Especially annoying if you're driving a manual and are stopped on an incline.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they just really love the smell of exhaust and are trying to get high off of your emissions

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (8 children)

If what you’re doing makes idiots angry, feel good about yourself and keep doing it.

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[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (7 children)

nothing gets me more pissed off than when I'm driving the speed limit on an open road with an open passing zone, no one coming towards me or ahead of me, and some dipshit decides to ride my ass

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Then you need to lift off the accellerator, don't brake check or anything, just slowly slow down.

If the car behind you won't give you enough safety margin to maintain a high speed, then your only option to maintain safety is to reduce your speed so that the safety margin they give you is enough to stop in time for an accident.

Here in Sweden we have plenty of roundabouts, I will use those to also get rid of annoying drivers who just can't manage their distance, if I have someone like that behind me when I get to a roundabout, I just drive a full lap of the roundabout and let them pass.

I will allways let these guys past when I can, they are in a rush to their own accident, and I am not, let them pass and and make them stop being my problem, if I can't find a place to let them pass I will reduce my speed to compensate for their lack of safety margins

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I already subconsciously do this because I know it pisses them off, but I like your justification much better

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[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

More space means less braking, reducing bunching up. Check this article on traffic waves out

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[–] lohky@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My car's "smart cruise control" leaves what seems to be around a car length for every 10 mph, which is what I remember hearing in driving school. Feels a bit excessive in practice, but I also never feel like I'm being an asshole so I'm okay with it.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I was rear ended, HARD once. That distance gave me the space to control both my vehicle, and the one that hit me. It turned a potential multi car, multi lane pileup into a 2 vehicle wreck, either 1 more dinged car.

The space isn't for the 99.999% of the time, but that 0.001% OH FUCK time.

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I leave 2-3 seconds following distance minimum on interstate highways.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 15 points 3 days ago

"Only a fool breaks the 2 second rule."

I was taught to repeat that phrase, at a normal steady pace, when I saw the back of their car go past something, to use as a marker (a signpost, the end of one of the lines on the road, whatever).

If you finish the phrase after the front of your car has gone past the same marker, then you don't have a big enough braking distance and need to ease off a bit.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When I leave two car lengths, four cars will go into it, and at least one of their drivers will throw a half empty beer can at me.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have a two lane road for most of commute every morning. What hate is when you pick up a buttplug. A buttplug is some dipshit who crawls up your ass and refuses to pass. They wont leave enough gap for the person behind them to pass without passing both of us and they wont pass themselves.

What is crazy about this is that person will usually stay there until every car behind them has passed. After that they usually pass almost immediately.

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[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I've always followed the rule of 1 car length for every 10 miles per hour you're going.

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