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[–] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, how would suing something that can't feel pain help you get it up...

Sure it's nice to hear and all but I wrote them off a long time ago and this does nothing to make up for terrible ethics.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 4 points 14 hours ago

Good for them. I’d love to see ALL industries do this but that’s going to be impossible. We’d need greed eradicated before that happens.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Would rather be normal and not dumb.

[–] ellypony@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Massive massive W for once

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

The different direction;

No more original IP, and 99% of profits come from litigating against end users.

(It's the same direction as before, just not including AI yet)

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

List of a few of Nintendo's new IPs from the last 15 or so years:

  • Arms
  • Good Job!
  • 1-2 Switch
  • Dillon
  • Splatoon
  • Snipperclips
  • Pushmo
  • Steel Diver
  • Fluidity
  • Nintendoland

Just because you aren't buying/playing them doesn't mean they aren't making them. Let's also not ignore the amount of time to develop a game has increased significantly or how gamers overwhelmingly choose to buy games from well-known IP. They are a company and need to pay their employees. I'm not a fan of Nintendo's litigation practices, but I'm also not a fan of how whiny and bitchy gamers have become. If they aren't whining and or bitching, they are harassing developers and actors.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 15 hours ago

I mean, that direction is extremely lucrative, whereas AI is extremely expensive and totally unproven to be profitable.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nintendo n....

Wait they did a good thing? huh, that's... new

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nintendo militantly protecting their IP, to the detriment of pirates, is their prerogative. Inside the dev culture, they're one of the best and most respected AAA shops in the business. Their games speak for themselves.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean morally good, if Disney didn't suck total dogshit now, I'd call Nintendo the Disney of Gaming

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's cool now could you tell your lawyers to go in a different direction with respect to mods and fan games?

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Pokemon effectively makes them all the money they need and all they need to do is sick one of the rabid lawyers they keep in the basement on anyone even remotely infringing upon what they think they own.

They're like a litigation equivalent to McDonald's land ownership twist to company financial equivalency.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

They want AI to get to a point where they can sue it.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Nintendo weren't such pricks about their IP, they would be a perfect company. They don't chase short-lived trends, they don't make live-service slop or loot boxes, their DLC is usually great (without feeling necessary), they constantly experiment and innovate, and most of their hardware is incredibly durable and reliable (joycon drift being the big exception). But if you make a fan game or host a tournament using one of their games, even if it's been out of print for 20 years, even if you're not monetizing it, they will come after you. It's the one thing I really hate about them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (13 children)

If Nintendo weren’t such pricks about their IP, they would be a perfect company

They also have some atrocious work culture. Managers screaming at people. Developers routinely overworked to burnout. Leads can be egomaniacal in their pursuit of a particular vision.

The IP attitude is deeply rooted in a company culture of strict control and authoritarian attitudes.

That said, they produce some incredible art and style. So it's hard to argue with the results.

Wish people would be more comfortable simply feeling inspired by Nintendo and doing their own things, rather than trying to harvest Nintendo IP and fight them for control. Would make everyone happier over the long term.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wish people would be more comfortable simply feeling inspired by Nintendo and doing their own things

The PalWorld devs did that. Nintendo sued them anyway.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's more of a Japanese company thing than something specific to Nintendo.

Not that it makes it OK, but this is a country that looked at how workers are treated in America and decided the problem was not going hard enough.

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nintendo Lawyers realizing some of their IP is represented in LLM training data and outputs.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, If love it if their lawyers tore a big strip out of Open AI (not that OpenAI need any help operating their massive money furnace.)

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 159 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thankfully, Nintendo gets it.

One thing about them, they might be assholes when it comes to game preservation and whatnot, but they always did their own thing based on what they think gamers would like.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 85 points 1 day ago (8 children)

They're a toy company. That's how they think of themselves. The fun comes first. That's why they also try new gimmicks in games and then most of the time never do it again. In their minds they already made that toy.

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[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Good thing happens:

Lemmy: Yeah but lawsuits am I right?

Can't you people be happy for one goddamn second?

[–] Spider89@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 100 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Has anyone told them they can probably use AI to search for opportunities for lawsuits?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 105 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nintendo sues OpenAI after determining it infringes on its patent (JP2002-905518) for a "dystopian AI assistant" used in Metroid Fusion.

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