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On Monday a new version of the globally unprecedented EU bill aimed at searching all private messages and chats for suspicious content (so-called chat control or child sexual abuse regulation) was circulated and leaked by POLITICO soon after. According to the latest proposal providers would be free whether or not to use ‘artificial intelligence’ to classify unknown images and text chats as ‘suspicious’. However they would be obliged to search all chats for known illegal content and report them, even at the cost of breaking secure end-to-end messenger encryption. The EU governments are to position themselves on the proposal by 23 September, and the EU interior ministers are to endorse it on 10 October. Messenger providers Signal and Threema have already announced that they will never agree to incorporate such surveillance routines into their apps and would rather shut down operations in the EU.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is hard to look at. I thought our side of the ocean was dystopian. So you get health care, but no private texting.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We'll still do, just not from corporations. That's the reason I've been running my matrix server for years. The crypto(graphy) wars of early 2000 it's an example why it won't work. Unless they ban github and similar, there will always be free/open software to fill that need.

Also we don't get mass shootings 😅

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do you message someone who doesn’t use your matrix server?

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I should have clarified, it's for close family only. If ChatControl comes to pass I guess some more people will get onboarded on it.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are people allowed to communicate with you on your Matrix server from other Matrix servers?

Not in a technical sense, but in a legal sense.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No idea, it's not federated anyway

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not who you replied to but Spantaleev’s Ansible script can be fired at a VPS of your choice and Bob’s your uncle.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Bob actually is my uncle how the fuck did you know?? This is why we need secure communication methods so everyone will stop doxxing my poor uncle.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Nothing fancy, just this on a vps.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US will quickly follow if the EU passes it I bet

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Have you not heard of KOSA? We're basically trying already.

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Healthcare and no private texting is still better than school shootings

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Only some places get free health care. Some EU countries have insurance systems.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

AGAIN?

Will they keep trying this again and again and again and again until it passes?

[–] projectmoon@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

That is exactly the plan.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Go back to posts about the last time they tried and look at the comments predicting this would happen.

It's scary how persistent they are to pass it

[–] dasenboy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Anyone know if it passed?

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Spain is really trying their absolute damndest to root out and "arrest" separatists I guess...

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately I'm starting to expect the Spanish Inquisition

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Same with Ireland

[–] TarantulaFudge@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

+1 for decentralized or federalized services gonna plug matrix here I've used it for 5 years avoid using matrix.org homeserver

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

So much care about private chats, so little care about legislating shadow moderation and troll factories.

[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Hey, that green shape looks familiar...