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Source based Venom linux Distro (venomlinux.org)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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So i recently learned about a distro that has popped up called venom linux. It's a sourced based distro using the package manager called "scratch"

I am very familiar with gentoo linux and this seems like it has heavy inspiration from the gentoo project. Its very cool to see another source based distro come into the picture. The unique part is it has 2 init systems currently, which are neither systemd or openrc?!?!

They are S6 and sysv Which i have never heard of until now. The install looks via similar to gentoo/classic distro install. Which consists of creating partition schemes and filesystems then extracting a archive of the base file.

Some of the main taking points are

"Minimal as possible

Customizable

No systemd (elogind or any part from it)

Centered Around smaller software

That means the lack of huge software like Gnome"

I thought this was a pretty neat project and wonder what other gentoo users think aswell as binary distro users

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[–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

That means the lack of huge software like Gnome

Been using Gentoo since Jan 2009 and one of the reasons I moved to it and never looked back was because it let me tailor "huge software" like KDE to my needs, with the aid of USE flags and sets. That's what an actual customizable distro let you to do. If you want to use "smaller software" like, say, Openbox, it won't get in your way either.

So that point of "centered around smaller software" strucks as weird to me - it goes against the "customizability" point and, ironically, the very Linux kernel is "huge software"...

[–] Sbauer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

sysV is the init system linux distributions used before systemd, openrc, upstart, runit, smf etc. It’s pretty much the old daddy and comes from Linux unix roots. Even MacOS used it before they made their own called launchd.

S6 sounds like a update to it since the capital V in sysv stands for the Roman numeral 5.

[–] nyan@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

To be exact, OpenRC was developed to be run on top of sysV init, and still can be. (Many distros had their own "on top of sysV" things, but most of them stopped being maintained as systemd became common. OpenRC started its life as Gentoo's "on top of sysV", but was then cleaned up and made distro-agnostic.)

s6 is apparently a daemontools-like process supervisor that can be run as an init or in company with some other init.

Gentoo's comparison of init systems lists Artix as the preferred service file supplier for s6 (although that may be outdated), so I expect it is or was used extensively by that distro.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Source based distros are niche enthusiast things. I can't say much about them. I like the minimal and lightweight focus though. Also I prefer runit.

[–] bodaciousFern@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I've been a decades long Gentoo user, but now I'm experimenting with NixOS as I've gotten older and value my time more. The 12+ hours of compiling when there's a chromium / QT update is no longer a badge of honor. I haven't fully converted though, Gentoo binary packages are working as an acceptable stopgap

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

If they get dinit i'll probably try it