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Hello everyone,

I've been trying to work through my remaining MR fodder. I've picked a few things off my remaining unmastered list and started trying to acquire them... only problem is these things have proven unexpectedly difficult/annoying to get. So, is there a resource somewhere to allow for quick differentiation based on ease of acquisition?

I've got few enough things on the list I could probably fit the set of all weapons I haven't mastered yet into 3-4 screenshots if that'd help.

Edit: Was asked for the screenshots:

Took a bit more than I thought. While I was at it also took a few of the other things that give MR:

I have Tatsu Prime & Citrine building but otherwise I think the screenshots show a pretty accurate listing of what I still need to put effort into.

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[–] KremlinJanitor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LR4 here, the screenshots might help with suggestions on how to obtain things in a timely manner. One thing to note though is that a lot of veterans like my self who have been playing for close to 10 years have been able to pace ourselves with the release of content to some degree. So while the total number of MR based items may seem high, it wasn't always the case.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've been at it a few years myself as well. 4.4k hours on Steam. It took a few more screenshots than I thought it would but I've updated the main-body of the post with the whole log of everything I haven't mastered. Thanks for taking the time to help, I really appreciate it.

[–] KremlinJanitor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for the late reply. Looks like the majority of what you still need to level is Prime things. If you weren't already aware those can be acquired from Void Relics. A large majority of the ones you still need to level are vaulted. Luckily two frames and their associated weapons are un-vaulted each month. You can check to see which are from the market in your ship under Prime Resurgence. Or by going to Maroo's Bazarr on Mars and talking to Varzia.

The next large chunk of items are the Kuva and Tenet weapons which you get from the Lich system. This would probably be the most time consuming behind the Prime items you're missing. For a full run down of how that system works i would recommend just checking the wiki page.

The rest are kind of scattered about so you can always refer to the wiki as to how to acquire them. The one exception to that would be the compainion weapons which you will get from building the normal and prime variants, leveling the Sister Hounds (which you will get from interacting with the Lich system), and leveling the Moas from Legs in Fortuna.

Hope that helps!

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought about as much but it helps to hear somebody else say it seeing my situation. I've been trying to get the Alternox & Sibear and when either gets frustrating taking a break to crack relics. I've been poking at Liches every now-and-then as well. Honestly, it's the Forma cost of getting all the MR out of them that's my biggest stopping point on that, not the Liches themselves.

Really helps to hear I'm more or less on the right track, thanks!

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Always keep in mind that ideally, you should be doing two things at once when you’re doing something. Working lich murmurs? Be sure to do the excavation mission for cryotic to get that Sibear. Grinding XP in ESO? Be sure to stay to wave 8’s end, to get a chance at Braton Vandal and Lato Vandal.

And on a different note, to avoid burnout don’t do the same void-damned thing over and over and over. When grinding for Old Mate standing with Fortuna, I’d start each day with a bounty, and end the day with another. If a clan mate wanted to run some of them during the day, great, I’d do that. But I did not spend 3 hours running the same bounty over and over.

If the only sensible place to get something means you have to grind the same mission over and over, vary the gear you use for it so it becomes more interesting. This is what I did grinding for Harrow Systems back when its best drop chance was a dismally low number from Saturn Defection. You hate the game going to the same mission with the same gear over and over. So I tried most every frame to see if things that weren’t the meta for defection would work, and to my delight discovered that several are quite good at it.

And finally, I hope you have a good, social clan that likes helping. If you don’t, maybe I can fix that.

[–] misericordiae 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

MR30 here. Apart from the prime and lich stuff, there's definitely a few easy things you've missed, and some clusters of stuff you can work on simultaneously or while doing other things (like cracking relics or grinding aya):

  • Have you done all the zaws, kitguns, k-drives, and amps? Wasn't sure if what you're using tracks them. If not, that's potentially a big chunk.
  • BPs from the market: pandero, carrier, dethcube, shade, wyrm, various archgun/archmelees (parts require syndicates)
  • BPs from the dojo: catabolyst, mios, helios, djinn, itzal, dorrclave, hema
  • Nightwave: heat dagger, dark sword, wolf beacons for wolf sledge
  • Deimos iso vaults: aurum spinosa, sporothrix, cortege, and necramech parts; rep for cortege and bonewidow BPs. Note that arcana iso vaults have better drop rates for aurum spinosa and sporothrix parts, but you'll probably be stuck doing them solo.
  • Stuff from syndicates, all of which are tradable if you don't want to swap syndicates: various archmelee and archgun parts, sancti/secura/telos weapons, abyssal beacons for dorrclave mats
  • BPs, parts, and relics from corpus railjack derelict caches: carmine penta and nautilus, plus relics for valkyr prime, nyx prime, cernos prime, scindo prime, hikou prime, and venka prime
  • Baro: prisma weapons, vericres, halikar wraith, vulkar wraith, prova vandal, supra vandal, vastilok, ax-52 (probably)

As a side note for sibear, I found getting cryotic passively while grinding circuit much less tedious than trying to grind it directly, but that might just be me.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Haven't done them all yet... honestly I haven't even finished my first K-Drive yet. Really not a fan of hoverboarding about. Still, I'll see what I can do about the other modulars.

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You can get all the way to LR4 without leveling a single K-drive. I did.

[–] Dystopia@dormi.zone 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A really niche relic farm, some relics for the most recent primes can be found in Profit Taker bounties.
Check Profit Taker Phase 2, 3, and 4 bounty rewards, these missions are fairly short and have a reasonably good drop rates for their respective relics. You can open Nightwave/view lich to skip dialog gated parts of the quest.

Just some rough estimates for times:
Phase 2 ~2min
Phase 3 ~5min
Phase 4 3-5min

For phase 2, any speedrun warframe like Wisp/Nova/Wukong. Bring along a Shade or Huras Kubrow for their stealth ability. Best to play this mission solo, I find the game likes to load me into lobbies after the mission reward screen if I'm playing public.

Phase 3 only requires you to match the Profit Taker's element, more damage does not speed this up. Use whatever you're comfortable with.

For phase 4, use Chroma or any tanky warframe with Eclipse/Roar. Knockdown immunity (overguard/passive/ability) is nice but not a requirement. *If you find you aren't seeing a bounty reward screen, the Profit Taker is taking too much damage from a single shot in one of the archgun phases, try switching to the Imperator/Mausolon.

These missions are mostly just an alternative to playing a mission like Disruption/ESO. The tradeoff is that you don't really get burner relics but any relics that you do get will be radiant. The other nice part about playing these missions is that you don't need to deal with waiting for the right rotation for your desired relic to become available.

If you need a weakened version of one of the infested companions, you can use the Tranq Rifle (sleep arrows only temporarily put them to sleep, Tranq Rifle is infinite duration) to put them to sleep and then attract an infested to the area to attack them. I would use Ivara to go invisible once the infested are alerted, If you're brining a companion for something like enemy radar, it should be a sentinel without a weapon so that it can't accidently kill the infested before it converts the Predasite/Vulpaphyla to their weakened version. Look up the cycle needed to spawn your desired variant or try your luck with Pheromones.

The last thing is if you can do is work on multiple things at the same time like rank up weapons/companions while collecting relics like in ESO to make things a little less grindy. Passively get relics through spending syndicate standing, or while cracking relics in the void. There's a chance someone runs a relic you need and this can end up saving you a lot of time. And take breaks whenever you need them, there's no reason to burn yourself out just to reach some mastery rank.

[–] tehSharkness@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There are certain weapons I consider platinum only, specifically because they are locked behind a piece of content that has too long of a lock for me to keep my eyes open.

Specifically, I'm referring to things like the Arum Spinosa, Sporothrix, and Deimos Archguns, as you need to run Arcana Vaults, which might as well be solo only, and annoying/boring as well. The Ambassador and some Prime warframe (Ash?) parts are behind 20 min Railjack Survival. Vandal Lato/Braton are at the end of 20 min ESO. In addition to being mind numbing, it's also very easy to fail/get lesser rewards from these missions.

I would generally only subject yourself to a grind if the secondary/tertiary rewards are worth something to you. Running relics is almost always worth your time, regardless of mission type. If you need to level some MR fodder, run some Void Cascade or Duviri Circuit so you're also getting Zariman Arcanes or Circuit rewards, as well as big bunches of Focus.

[–] mossy_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

You can buy all of the parts for Deimos archguns now! Not sure when that changed but you can get damaged necramech weapon parts with standing from necraloid.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Thanks, hadn't considered buying with plat but it makes sense. I use to sell Rivens prior to my last hiatus, and I've got a pretty nice stock of arcanes I'm never going to use too.