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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not me sitting here with hundreds of dollars in TTRPG manuals when my playgroup only meets once a week and we are in the middle of a pathfinder campaign.

I feel particularly called out because I spent all day today reading Mothership manuals and adventures and I have no idea when I'll get to play it.

[–] ampedwolfman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You're good, dude. You're trying to immerse yourself in rules and the lore. No one would say shit if you downloaded all the pdf's for free and read them. This way, you're just supporting paizo.

Read on and keep enjoying the hobby.

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[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Only if you're, like, French and totally from 1988. You poser.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

So the real answer is... if you're just starting out, go mid with your gear investment.

[–] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It depends.

It's the reason I stopped making so much fun of people that recreate the "MAMIL" trope - "Middle Aged Men In Lycra". Meaning men who start their midlife crisis buying an expensive bicycle with neon-colored bicycle clothes and bicycle glasses and all the other stuff.

Why don't they just start riding their bicycle they already got? They can use their sunglasses and normal sport shorts. What's the problem?

But I some cases or age-ranges people want to make a change and get out of their usual habits. A real phase shift. People think they want to work out more regularly. Or really start a new hobby. Buying a bunch of expensive stuff can increase the need to go through with this phase shift - at least in the minds of the people buying it.

As an adult picking up a new hobby often means that other things in their life have to make room. It's usually not that adults in their (let's say) mid 30s until early 50s have problems filling their day. So whatever new hobby or task they want to do has to push away other habits and stay there until these new habits can take root.

So starting with some expensive shit can be something I can understand - if one has the money.

If I would start making music again, I'd probably start by buying an expensive synth like the super-6 from UDO (that I always wanted to buy) instead of a bunch of bleep-bloop-machines that need a lot of initial time for understanding them and then only fulfill one specific function in my music.

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[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

In rock climbing we use “Gumby” no clue why.

EDIT: I’d like to clarify I agree about the gatekeeping this reinforces and this really doesn’t get used often, and if anything it sees more use among friends for silly reasons, like missing a Velcro on a shoe or something. Like I said I don’t know the origin because I don’t really engage with the “joke” that much.

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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Think it's the trap that if you continue with the hobby, all the starter gear is useless and all the money could have been spent on better equipment.

I paint miniatures. Not as often it as much as I would like to because of dividing my time between work, two year old and chores, but I have had the hobby for the last six years. I have yet to purchase an airbrush, and I can get a perfectly decent starter set for lets say 20 USD. But I can also get a better set with high end compressor, better paint gun.for 60 USD. I know that if I keep getting better at using the airbrush I will eventually get the high end stuff, why not "save" money and get it right away.

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[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (12 children)

I bought the Bambu P1S 3d printer. I've never 3d printed and knew very little except for the dozen or so YouTube videos recommending it and how to use it, learned about filaments and everything else I now know I learned on the way.

I could have gotten one of a dozen <$500 3D printers. But would that just leave me wanting in the future? Will I be stuck with a cheaper tool after learning and experiencing the ceiling of it?

I see this mentality working on people who aren't interested in a hobby enough to justify a large purchase, people just trying out and see if they're interested kinda thing. But what if the subpar gear turns the person off from their poor experience?

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[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

No we don't, we need less gatekeeping

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sometimes high end is $200 and low is $100. Sometimes it’s worth just doing it right the first time.

Podcasting comes to mind immediately. Modest investment leads to exponential leaps in quality. You can have a 99% better production than the rest of the landscape with about $500. Even if it’s just a hobby if you’re going to make something that other people see/hear then you should consider the quality of the experience lol

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[–] OkGo@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the music industry. This is the go to answer for overpriced guitars.

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[–] Jff@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

In the UK we say "All the gear and no idea"

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

I've heard "wallet warrior" been thrown around in gaming communities for people who just pay for high end accounts without having any skill to back it up.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Rich poser back in my day

[–] arken@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Us guitarists call them blues lawyers.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ooo I haven't heard of that term. Fun fact I learned a while ago: something like 90% of people that pick up a guitar will quit within the first year. However, those that stick with it will spend on average $10k over their lives on equipment.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's actually pretty cheap over a lifetime.

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[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago
[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I hate the disparaging of gatekeeping as inherently bad. Mountain biking has seen an uptick of people riding electric fat bikes, essentially just dirt bikes. It's bad enough when beginners are using normal bikes to ride in wet muddy conditions on trails that can't handle it or skidding into corners, it does so much more damage when they're tearing up the trail with a heavy motorized bike with wide tires. More gatekeeping would keep the trails in better conditions.

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How about "Rich people I'm jealous of?"

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I am so guilty of this!

Granted, if it is a new activity or hobby where rookies don't destroy gear, it makes sense to me. It lets me skip the constant upgrading as my skills increase.

I'll buy a zillion dollar airbrush and learn to use it, and feel incentivised to take care of it. I didn't do the same with my first Jeep when I got into offloading. My first one was a cheap junker that I could roll if I did a rookie move.

As for a slur for people like me....I dunno, whatever makes you feel superior I guess. If it is creative or funny enough, I'll happily adopt it and use it 👍

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

I usually just refer to them as having "more money than brains"....

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

At the gym, I call them "Resolutioners," and they usually only last til February.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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