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[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I'm all for giving credit where credit is due.

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[–] Dark_Dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Better headline

" China's EV Revolution Slows Oil Demand "

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What is with these headlines these days.... "Fueling a slowdown".

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago

Editors love puns

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China's EV's putting brakes on oil demand

[–] anakin78z@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oil demand deceleration is up in country where demand for non battery vehicles is down. China.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They sort of bury the lede by only mentioning it once in the tagline. Their consumption is also down because there is a massive widespread shift to using CNG/LNG in industrial vehicles/transport trucks instead of diesel, which is a majority driver of oil consumption in China's production-based economy.

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

True, but IIUC, the energy/mass of carbon might be better than diesel.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

You are right, according to the Wikipedia:
CNG/LNG:

CNG's energy density is the same as liquefied natural gas at 53.6 MJ/kg.

Diesel fuel:

About 86.1% of diesel fuel mass is carbon, and when burned, it offers a net heating value of 43.1 MJ/kg as opposed to 43.2 MJ/kg for gasoline.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

It also burns ridiculously cleaner as it does not have the typical long hydrocarbons and sulfur/metal contaminants that otherwise turn into air pollution. It's a smart choice in the short term.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fueling a slowdown? Doesn't sound right.

[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

That headline is a race track that leads to a brick wall.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I need a car because I live in a semi-rural area outside city limits the nearest public transportation would be a 2-mile walk including crossing a four-lane highway. I'm under no illusions that driving an EV will solve climate change, but boy would I like to never have to fill my car up in the middle of an Indiana February again.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had coworkers that had all electric EVs (both had nissan leafs) 5 years ago and they both said it was like 7 dollars a month as a daily 60 mile per day commuter.

Aside from Teslas (which are afaik impossible to repair) the estimate is that due to fewer moving parts the lifetime maintenance costs are 2/3 the cost of gas vehicles AND the vehicles are expected to last longer in general (no giant gas engine that needs to be rebuilt every 200,000 miles)

This is one place where like gas car companies see this and keep trying to kick the can down the road

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Today I sold my beloved 2008 Mini, partly because, while the engine was still completely sound at 130k miles (barring the turbo that blew up three years ago), the rest of the car was beginning to fall apart. One of the rear light clusters kept shorting, interior panels worked themselves loose, the AC stopped working, the self leveling mechanism in one of the headlights broke. And so on, and so on.

I’m genuinely sad that I had to let it go, but it was on the cusp of being a massive pain in the ass to sort out.

But that engine was still solid.

[–] Juvyn00b@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I had a Lexus ES350 that had a melting dash, and the recall for it has ended a year prior to me having the issue. Essentially the dash was engineered to be easier to recycle/break down - but inadvertently had a lifetime limitation to it. The rest of the car was in decent enough shape and didn't give me any real problems. There were alternate solutions to fixing the dash, but once you start talking 200000 miles on a chassis - you're gonna start replacing things. Touched surfaces start breaking down; things with less robust parts (cd player) start having issues etc. Overall the entire package just starts looking tired, and replacing the whole thing looks more attractive than trying to find parts for a fifteen year old car. Perhaps modularization in the future can help. For instance I wouldn't have minded replacing the audio system in the car - but it was very much a specialized installation that wasn't a standardized "double din" setup. Also trying to find basic comforts like replacement seat cushions or leather to match gets tricky after the manufacturer stops keeping stock.

[–] CondensedPossum@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Why is Biz Insider so insistent on being cringe on top of being a worthless capitalist propaganda rag

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Why is the title written so badly. Can't journalists write a normal descriptive headline.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good, I may not care about climate that much but I never liked the oil barons

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Thats a strange thing to say. Even if the changes havent been dramatic where you live, it certainly will with time if we dont limit the damage done.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well I care but I don’t act so it means I don’t care. Writing on it on Lemmy isn’t ’caring about it’. It’s just virtue signalling.

It’s better to be honest to yourself that if you don’t do anything about it it means that you don’t care

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Writing on it on Lemmy isn’t ’caring about it’. It’s just virtue signalling.

It certainly isn't virtue signaling when you post 4 times to a single post talking about how you do actually care but it isn't misplaced like other people here. You're actually here changing hearts and minds one conversation at a time.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I am worsening my own image not bettering it. I am actually taking hit to my points or whatever or so called reputation on the site as I speak. It’s the opposite actually. I don’t really care about climate as I said earlier. I only pretend to if there is something to gain.

This is like the polar opposite of virtue. It gives me a different perspective

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well the important thing here is you found a way to be humble about it all. Kudos on finding a way to live your truth in a way that allows you to ignore everyone else's. I suppose that really is the opposite of virtue.

Edit: but on a serious note, I think you're already hard on yourself and maybe we should let up. I think in a way you're instigating this to get attention, which I am not bothered by, I just want to point out that there's a need here that has to be fulfilled.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Okay lol, how am I hard on myself? Projecting…

I am not really built like most people. I don’t have some kind of self image that can be harmed or damaged. The only common denominator is lack of care so to say which is interesting and I only got to fully see it through psychedelics. It’s rather entertaining to delve into your psyche and dissect it, it’s fun. And fun is my number one interest and it’s really not easy to fuel my fun meter constantly.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean at this point the most unbearable thing I can do to you is show empathy. And yeah I am too hard on myself, so maybe I recognize it when I see it.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Same thing for example with animals. If you just post online on TikTok or twitter oh poor critters while eating meat or wearing fur and not doing anything that means you don’t care. So I prefer not lying to myself about it. I don’t care.

Workers rights in third world countries same thing. Didn’t do a single wallet voting? Then it means I don’t care. I am not going to virtue signal for fake points or clout. Action is caring, words are worthless deception, most often self-deception.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Is it clear what I am trying to convey? What I mean is all those communities like collapse or the like on Reddit they don’t really care about climate, poverty or any of it. They just use them to solve their mental health problems. Shift the blame and responsibility from themselves.

Those who care are aplenty though probably not enough and are doing various volunteering work.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Social media greatest tragedy is giving us the illusion that we are doing something. That we care.
No. If you care you do. If you don’t do - you don’t care, you are just lying to yourself that you do.

You just cannot handle the reality of not being such a good, caring person as you imagine yourself to be hence you write a post on twitter, you read an article, you press the like button. It’s easy. Bam your precious self image is saved.