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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Leemurs provoke centipedes to make them excrete their defensive toxin, but then the lemurs just use that toxin to get high and repel mosquitos.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The word just is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Get high and repel mosquitos?

Sign me up!

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And there are monkeys that steal drinks from beach resorts.

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's really interesting is that study was made and the distribution of social drinkers, nice drunks, mean drunks, etc, roughly matches that of the humans.

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[–] QProphecy@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And dolphins like to kick puffer fish around to get high

[–] androogee@midwest.social 109 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is only a reenactment

[–] QProphecy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

First time I laughed out loud today. Thanks! 😀

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Thanks for clarifying. At first I mistook it for a photograph.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Puff, puff, pass.

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Jaguars actually eat the leaves of b. capii, which acts as a MAOI in the Ayahuasca brew.

While there is some discussion that the harmala alkaloids in b. capii might also be slightly psychoactive in high doses, the actual main compound in Ayahuasca is DMT, which is certainly very psychoactive, but not bioavailable when consumed orally without a MAOI. Unless the jaguars have figured out how to combine the two and/or brew ayahuasca, I strongly doubt that's their intention and that they'd get comparable effects.

I think the idea stems from the BBC show Weird Nature showing a jaguar eating yage leaves in episode 6, "Peculiar Potions".

I'm not really sold on how well that content was researched.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

B. caapi is called ayahuasca, as well as being an ingredient in the brew with the same name, so the image is not technically wrong.

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure. In my opinion, however, the overall context of the image does imply the jaguar enjoys similar effects to those clearly requiring the presence of DMT, as that is what is most people commonly associate with ayahuasca.

It's a bit of a "look at all those animals getting high, this jaguar is even talking to machine elves in the 19th dimension" kinda thing, where - if I remember correctly - they actually consume the leaves for digestive purposes.

Again, the leaves do have an effect, e. g. they apparently act as an SSRI (that's how common antidepressants work) and we can't be absolutely sure about their effect on cats (catnip certainly has some effect on cats we don't readily enjoy), so I can't dismiss the notion of jaguars seeking them out for that reason as well.

[–] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The mental images of the consequences of running into, and then having to fight, a jaguar who’s high on ayahuasca is both hilarious and terrifying.

„Bro, chill out! The strawberry fractals are a mere figment of your imagination and can’t hurt you.“

„CHRAOW! CHRAOWOW!! Satayskewers!“

[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Came here for this, I was looking forward to having a Jaguar shaman for my aya ceremony but I guess that's off now

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember reading that the Sami people used to drink the piss of a reindeer that had eaten fly agaric/fly amanita mushrooms since even though they're poisonous, most of the poison gets left in the reindeer while the nice hallucinogenic stuff passes through. Wikipedia put it a bit differently:

Patrick Harding describes the Sami custom of processing the fly agaric through reindeer.

Processing does sound nicer.

[–] Truffle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I remember reading about this too (cannot remember where exactly. It was a long time ago) and how that practice helped shape the idea of Santa's flying reindeer.

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago

"Ualabis"? Is that supposed to be "wallabies"?

As best I can tell from searching, that's kind of the Spanish word for "wallabies" (translate gives "ualabies"). Seems like a weird choice.

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The ulabis doesn't really seem to fit the infographic.

Eating opium plants when food is scarce doesn't really fall under the "drug use" category as it seems like it would have to be done.

The other uses were chosen

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

opium plants

Do you mean "poppies?"

[–] androogee@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago
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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

also, if it’s the australian marsupial that it looks like… “Wallaby”

[–] Imp3riaLL@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What? No way bats can fly under influence! They are not above the law.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Meanwhile the Siberian Nomad off to the side waiting for whichever reindeer that gets the shrooms to take a piss 👁️👄👁️

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bees also get drunk. If they try to enter the hive while drunk, they get kicked out to sober up

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

From what I read they don't only get kicked out but absolutely mutilated by ripping their limbs off

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

I am not sure if I am scared of a high jaguar or want to pet it. Maybe both?

Jaguar to his buddy: "Dude, I was so baked I let a hairless monkey pet me. I got the munchies though, so I ate him."

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Oneser@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the Spanish translate Wallaby. TIL

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought it may have been a more accurate and respectful transcription of the First Nations language the word came from, as opposed to the simplified colonial-era anglicisations, though it being Spanish orthography makes sense.

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is documentary video of animals on the savannah eating fermented marula is great

https://youtu.be/AIDJ-sTuoO8

the hung over warthog is so relateable!

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Humans: hold me beer, joint, shrooms, cactus, and chemistry set

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bet other animals would do the same if they weren't getting high all the time and could figure it out for themselves.

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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Is there a reason we haven't tried this narcotic fungi?

Shrooms are great, why not try other 'gi?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Humans actually do, but they do it by drinking the reindeer piss after the reindeer have eaten it.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I imagine it's either there's a chemical in the new fungi that specifically makes the rams high but not us or there is something in there that doesn't affect them but is toxic to us

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 2 months ago

There’s an urban legend that koalas spend their entire lives drunk because the eucalyptus leaves they subsist on ferment inside them, though maybe that’s just because they look a bit dopey.

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Amarula logo. Not a bad liquor at all.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the fuck is a ualabi.

(Bad example if they mean wallaby, opium is an invasive species and they only eat it out of desperation. A better one would be the chronically addled eucalyptic meth head that is the koala)

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

How can jaguars consume ayahuasca if it is a beverage containing various ingredients that work together to be potent? What do they actually consume?

Ayahuasca is a hallucinogen commonly made by the prolonged decoction of the stems of the Banisteriopsis caapi vine and the leaves of the Psychotria viridis shrub, although hundreds of species are used in addition or substitution (See "Preparation" below). P. viridis contains N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), a highly psychedelic substance. Although orally inactive, B. caapi is rich with harmala alkaloids, such as harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine (THH), which can act as monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOi). This halts the liver and gastrointestinal metabolism of DMT, allowing it to reach the systemic circulation and the brain, where it activates 5-HT1A/2A/2C receptors in frontal and paralimbic areas.

Do they consume Psychotria viridis leaves and does the DMT work this way?

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just a guess, but carnivores usually have extra potent stomach acids. Maybe there is a different chemical reaction that activates the 'DMT' effect in a different but similar way?

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

[off topic]

Some believe that beer was the trigger to the change from hunter/gatherer to agricultural society.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-beer

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

And wasps! They get drunk and aggressive in years with lots of overripe fruits.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about the birds that get drunk off of fermented cherries and smash into a stuff? We need to do something about these FWIs or nobody will be safe.

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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

You know that mountain what where Moses did the thing with the burning bush? Hallucinogenic mushrooms.

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