Kamala Harris Now Wants To Build the Border Wall That She Called Trump's 'Vanity Project' : usa

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, she doesn't. You're just amplifying BS claims made by the Right because they don't have anything substantial to try and smear her with.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

The bipartisan compromise, which featured concessions from both parties, included some wall funding in the hopes of generating GOP support. It was a relatively modest sum — $650 million, roughly 3% of what the Trump administration sought in 2018 — and the funding wasn’t even new. (As Team Harris reminded Axios, the provision “just extended the timeline to spend funds that had been appropriated during Trump’s last year as president.”)

OP’s username does not check out

[+] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She signed the bill
Her entire speech was to be tough on immigration. And let's not forget the classic "do not come here".
She is right wing. Democrats are right wing
She is complicit in genocide.
She put tons of people in jail the didn't deserve it, just for smoking weed and then laughed when they asked her about it.
She is a staunch supporter of Israel

The fact that you think that she is left wing is insane.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Most of your points have nothing to do with this issue, but ok. Yeah she signed the bill, so did most Democrats, only to have Republicans back out of signing their own bill. One side is working with others and trying to accomplish something beneficial, the other side is crying about a border issue and then tanking any attempts to address it. None of that equates to the false narrative that Harris is flip-flopping on the issue.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused what bill are you two talking about that a vice president with sign?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I have no idea what they're referring to either. It was Congress that handled the bill, not something that ever crossed the desk of the president or VP. I think Trumpers are just desperate to accuse Harris of something, anything, so they've been making up a lot of crap to see what sticks. I mean yeah, Harris has a sketchy record when it comes to Palestine and it's difficult to know how that situation is going to play out. I even had one of them accuse me of cherry-picking my data because I dared to link a Palestinian newspaper which made the case that under Harris things would be bad, but under Trump they would be dead. It's pretty obvious how desperate they're getting though when they're arguing that Harris must have made up her childhood because she claimed to have grown up in a town that neighbored where she was born... apparently they've never heard of this weird concept where people actually move.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just guessing but the VP is the head of the Senate and casts any tie breaking votes there. Not sure if that happened here but it's how the VP can get involved with "signing" stuff in the Senate.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Ah interesting to know!

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Signing the bill makes it their bill. The fact that you are defending it and saying “trying to work together” like if it is a good thing. Working together for what to build the wall and kick out expats? You guys are really in a cult

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So the Republicans created the bill, then made ulterior demands when they saw that Democrats were willing to help secure the border, but now suddenly it's a Democrat bill because the Republicans didn't sign their own bill when daddy Trump told them to jump? That's some mighty interesting hoops you're jumping through there.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is still the strictly Republican bill that Biden was going to pass but was killed at the direction of Trump to his cult followers in Congress.

This bill may come to pass as is or may not when a bunch of Democrats get in who demand no wall... but this is the perfect carrot to dangle for disenfranchised Republicans at least up to voting day.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All political science research suggests moves like this are never a good idea. From the perspective of the campaign, they think they're "taking the issue away" but there's copious research about this specifically with immigration. What you're actually doing is telling voters the other side had better judgement on this issue and you've come around to their wiser view. This both signals to low information voters the other side has a better grasp of the issue than you and dispirits your own side. If you dig into the numbers, this move has never worked for anyone ever. This is typical of the DNC political expert class who are objectively bad at their jobs on a Poli Sci 101 level.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It spawns propaganda videos exactly like the one OP posted, stretching the link of "funding the border wall" to one minor aspect of extending the expiry of money Congress under Trump appropriated.

For better or for worse, to some extent Harris has a degree of separation from Biden, she's just playing the hand that Biden was dealt, and it's Democrats' prerogative to push back against that low-information narrative suggested.

[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Surprise surprise, the DNC is adopting the GOP's stances from 4 years ago as their official platform as the American Empire continues to get more and more right wing.

Decaying Imperialism and Capitalism will do that.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is astonishing how cumulatively egregiously incorrect your blathering is.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 months ago

It is astonishing how cumulatively egregiously incorrect your blathering is.

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