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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I find it amazing that finance, sales, etc are held in such high regard when it's science and technology that advance society.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 43 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

You misspelled plumbing and agriculture.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Which are technology and science, respectively.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Most scientific and engineering skills would also be useless if civilization collapses. For example, I am a scientific software developer. Most of my work has been for medical research, which is something people tend to respect. However, I wouldn't be able to do anything useful with numerical modelling in a survival situation. My limited skills as an amateur home renovator would be far more relevant.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I agree with the rebuilding civilization from scratch part, but it's still what advances society.

*In this case, what will advance society is farming equipment. Machining science.

[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a bit like Maslows hierarchy of needs. First we need food and water and plumbing. When we are secure in those needs, society can take the next step. But the basis of security must be there before advancement

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 69 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

As a software engineer I often think about how laughably useless my skillset would be in any kind of survival or societal reset sort of situation.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

At least you can analyze problems logically and break down complex procedures into small, manageable steps.

SharePoint admins are really fucked.
Anyone building a system that's similar to what they're used to, in a post-apocalyptic society, would be laughed at, then shot.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You're a software engineer. You at least know the very basics of digital electronics, and can probably work your way backward to rudimentary power supplies.

You are far from fucked.

Mathematicians though? Oof I worry about them, if they did anything too practical they'd be physicists.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

That's where you're wrong bucko!

I'm a software engineer skilled in devops, Linux and web applications! I spent much of today making Jira tickets and drawing diagrams!

I'm so fucked

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago

Guys I've figured out the solution to our food problem! First, assume the pantry is full...

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

But if you were isekaied at the start of the apocalypse, which, let's be honest, is more likely than you surviving until post-apocalypse, you could become a monster magician!

On the other hand, if the apocalypse were Skynet...

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Oh no, all the scum-masters are gone, who will annoy us with their inane babbling now?"

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

scum-masters

Best typo ever.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh it was not a mistake, trust me.

One once tried showing me a slideshow on what it is they actually do, because the sauna we had for that evening was from their company.

Guy couldn't fuckin read the room though and actually went through with his PowerPoint presentation. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how someone could ignore so many social cues from us, the people who had nothing to do with his work, his company, or any work at all. Purely recreational night and dude starts it with that.

Yuck yuck yuck

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[–] odium@programming.dev 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

How will you know your velocity and whether you're swagged high or not?

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[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 weeks ago

When all the billionaires are dead and there's no one to create our jobs for us. :(

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Or landlords, not that leaching of society is a real job.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Sorry to disappoint, but landlording as a profession is the likeliest to thrive in a post apocalyptic medium.

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I don't believe the pre-apocalypse landlords ownership of land will be respected or matter.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

It won't. The new landlords however will get to make their own rules about how to handle their unregulated ownership.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

Yes but what is most likely to happen is that some violent mofos will take over large territories and make up their own rules and (...)

Which is what happened the last time there was a societal collapse.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I just found out that my landlord doesn’t have a job besides the income from properties. Fucking parasite still won’t fix basic shit

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 40 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Also not pictured: project managers

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A few competent project managers would probably help things quite a bit, actually.

Having a single point of contact for several disparate teams of people doing real work so that they can actually do that work, instead of spending extra time in endless meetings arguing over the best way to implement something that requires multiple people's input is a valuable tool to have.

Think of them like a tank in an RPG, taking all the meeting hits that would otherwise decimate the effectiveness of people actually putting the real work in.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Valid. Competent is the key word. I'm lucky, in that most of the ones I work with are actually really good, but the ones my colleagues work with (in the same company, different division) might as well have gotten their PMMP certificate out of a cereal box.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

Oh yeah, Project management is one of those roles that is especially vulnerable to the Peter Principal.

In order to be a good one, you need to be part therapist and part hostage negotiator while also being one of those weirdos that enjoys meetings

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Do you want our species to die from a disease spread from telephone receivers? Because that's how you get our species to die from a disease spread from telephone receivers.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know people who would describe that as "I fight coworkers"

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

That's too easy:

I make bugs

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

City planner here:

"I say 'No.'"

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

I make powerpoints.

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[–] LEONHART@slrpnk.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

Of course they can't find them.

They all shipped out on the (ever-important) Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The USA has a bs mythology that it was founded by 'pioneers' and that a wild wild west existed. The untold history of the USA is really the story of finance. Those that financed, the joint stock companies that helped to bring immigrants over. The land speculators, and recruiters that brought over Irish and other immigrants over in the 19th century, through money provided by rail and steam companies.
These type of post-apocalyptic memes perpetuate the stereotype of a self-made country. When in reality financiers from England were offshoring labor to a country with fewer regulations and no copyright/patent laws.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

A very USA-centric comment. While it is true that countries that were former colonies have their roots tied to those imperialist projects which definitely involved finance, this is not the case for countries that didn't start as colonies. The sweat of the subsistence farmer or the feudal peasant/slave was what built the foundations of most countries.

In a truly post-apocalyptic setting there definitely would not be any need for finance of any sort. Job titles such as the one in the meme above are bullshit jobs that only exist to serve modern consumer capitalism. That is to say, they are not necessary. That's what this meme is about in my opinion.

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

One of the ways I try to sell my trade to students, is telling them how important it is for the world. Machining, welding, plumbing, carpentry and so on. All of it would be primus motor to get society back.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

🎵 I don't want to set the world on fire 🎵

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[–] nobleshift@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've told all the children in the family, Learn how to make a living at least two ways, one with your mind, one with your hands/back. You'll always have food on the table.

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

No Social Media Coordinators? No regional PR reps? No "local small business" for them to inherit?

[–] mkuznetsoff@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

oh this picture seems taken from fallout 1 or 2 :)

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Me, a writer: [chuckles] I'm in danger

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