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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 169 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Gotta love the use of quotes here:

it should be treated with "utmost importance."

In other words, ignore this message from our lawyers.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 113 points 3 months ago (3 children)

This whole message reads like “we don’t actually care but we have to say that we do 😉🙂‍↕️”

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 months ago

Yep, the legal team advised a scare tactic akin to ISPs fishing for low-effort compliance. Reminds me of CAMP & the ATF busting farms in Mendicino until the '10s.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago

that such infringements do not occur on the campus

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I often tell my students “whatever you do, don’t go to libgen dot rs to download our textbook illegally. You’re gonna want to avoid Anna’s archive as well. You really want to steer clear from these malicious websites.”

[–] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people use quotes for emphasis, though. So, not sure if this faculty's on our side.

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[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 138 points 3 months ago (5 children)

If the uni has a license what's the issue lol

Also kinda shitty of those companies to charge educational instutions

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 92 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Not only shitty, it's dumb. Even Adobe knows to give students hefty discounts. It's how they get new users on the hook.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 38 points 3 months ago

I've been using Jetbrains products for free in college and I can say that it is the best advertisement. I bought it the day after my student license expired.

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[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 38 points 3 months ago

On my uni we also had licenses, their ratio per students were somethibg like 1:10.

[–] zelnix@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The uni doesnt care. The software vendor does and is threatening the uni for not being compliant.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also kinda shitty of those companies to charge educational instutions

It really is, but what can do? Capitalism exploits everything for profit.

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[–] verznogod@lemmy.dbzer0.com 115 points 3 months ago (6 children)

As a french, please don't give a penny worth of licence to Dassault Systèmes. They were founded by some of the worst ennemy of the people my country made.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I am not French, but tried to look it up. I couldn't find anything except him being a billionaire which should be enough.

[–] piracysails@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago

Fair enough

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 months ago

I pirated solid works because my university’s engineering program required what we PAY for it to complete our courses that absolutely required it.

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

SW was great to use back in uni but holy hell is it full of phone home stuff and really annoying these days, I scrapped my license, they straight up wouldn't let me cancel within 30 days of renewal so I yanked my cc and "cancelled" that way.

Use FreeCAD, mentioned in a few posts, it's got some clunk but it's 100% useable, has more than enough features for prosumer/hobbyist use, personally I'd make an argument it's fine for enterprise use too, Ondsel seems to think so considering that's the market they're targeting with their releases. I'd recommend the Ondsel release or Realthunder's (what I currently use) which has features/fixes that will be merged back, and 100% look at mainline freecad when the 1.0 release drops

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yea I would like to second that. Not sure how many FOSS alternatives exist for mine design & planning though

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know one for mine crafting...

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 75 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thumb of rule is, If you don't make enough to comfortably pay for some software; you simply don't pay for said software.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 14 points 3 months ago

Yup, this is why I didn't pay for REAPER until the check for my first audiobook came through!

I'm still waiting for that check from the author, but you best believe $60 of it is going to the software that made that job possible!

[–] GriffinClaw@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago
[–] xiao@sh.itjust.works 70 points 3 months ago

PhD students as well as all students of all levels need to use pirated software to fully develop their abilities.Trash this warning.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pro tip: Always use a program like binisoft windows firewall control

Look at companies like this. The software KNOWS it has been cracked but instead of disabling itself it sends home your info so you can get sued for copyright infringement

Ps: I'm curious to know the price of the geovia suite. I'm guessing it's a subscription and I'm guessing it's more than 10k per year

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Or a firewall that doesn't rely on windows firewall, since programs will just whitelist themselves from it during installation

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[–] gencha@lemm.ee 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is some next-level Minecraft you are playing over there

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it's on a students personal device, they can suck my hullabaloo

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Then you will be barred ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your system, your rules but their network and also their rules.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

MAC randomization to the rescue!

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 37 points 3 months ago

That reminds me, I got a very threatening email from my college in 2000s about downloading movies and that they traced the IP to my laptop, and I could be paying $10k in fines, have this on my permanent record and/or expelled.

I loled and pirated a lot more safer.

Still waiting for them to follow up with that 20 years later.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 29 points 3 months ago

Adobe did the same in my friend's animation college

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 27 points 3 months ago

Imagine using pirated software and allowing it to go online. Loco 🤯

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We also had expensive engineering software at university. Oftentimes it's a major PITA for everyone. The PhD students have to get their work done and are met by the software refusing to start because all licenses are taken. Sometimes someone forgot to log off or the computer crashed and the software takes most of the day to recover that license. Or some people do like 5 simulations in parallel. Or lock the computer, go home and block a license. The IT department will get lots of calls and have to deal with it. Especially when the pool of licenses is small. And it takes additinal effort to coordinate practical courses and excercises where you teach a group of 24 people which then need half the license pool available at a fixed time each week, despite the daily routine of everyone else.

And I'm not even sure if the people responsible, care too much for pirated software. But they're liable. Of course they write strongly worded mails when talking to everyone. It's their IT infrastructure and they can't have people do illegal things with it. Especially not while having an expensive contract with some supplyer. They can't have anyone leak a mail where they endorse piracy. Or post screenshots or turn in assignments or papers with screenshots that say "unregistered copy" in the bottom corner. And once students do silly things and the piracy is on display publicly, they'll have to do something. Usually that's writing a strongly worded email first. Because that takes next to no effort. I think the usual IT department doesn't care as long as things go smoothly, people do their various things and no one complains. They usually have other stuff to do. That makes me think in this story something must have happened that warranted some form of public reaction or at least show they addressed it and they have it in writing.

And I think the rest of the mail fits such IT people. They said why they do it and that they can't have piracy connected to the institutes name. They say they need some incoming complaints to justify buying more licenses. And the punishment fits the crime. They just disconnect the computer from their network and it's not their problem anymore. I think that's fair.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 3 months ago

It should be treated with "utmost importance", not with utmost importance. That ending is quite subversive!

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 months ago

So thry're saying they have plenty of licenses for the use case, but somehow people are still pirating?

Maybe their license management paradigm is just garbage. This could be the vendor, but also poor IT policy if the users can't requisition what they need.

As usual, service problem.

So much licensing fuckery-- dealing with floating or reissuing licenses, users needing to move to different machines-- could be solved via affordable site licensing. But that might leave dollars on the table if users don't overbuy.

[–] technomage1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would hope they're not using static IPs and MAC address spoofing is a thing.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago

usually college networks have a Mac address whitelist, so you need to turn off Mac spoofing in order to connect

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

Shucks... Maybe if the college didn't rob the students blind on tuition, and the publishers not rob the students blind on books, maybe they could afford to pay for software licenses. 🤷‍♂️

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 months ago

they should have put dorm numbers on there so you could meet some cool people. sharing is caring.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How did they detect it? Did these people install the pirated software on devices owned and managed by the college, or did they use their personal devices and only connect to the network? Anyway, they definitely should have used a VPN.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)

These softwares use your pc's network connections to send data to the servers which then checks whether you paid a license or not. When they can't use your internet connection, they also add personal information to any file you generate with the softwares such that if you send the file to someone else who has a license they will unknowingly rat on you through their connection.

[–] bc3114@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago

When they can’t use your internet connection, they also add personal information to any file you generate with the softwares such that if you send the file to someone else who has a license they will unknowingly rat on you through their connection.

This sounds evil, possibly violating some EU laws too.

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[–] chevy9294@monero.town 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seems like you have to buy... a VPN so that they won't see you using pirated software.

[–] retro@infosec.pub 10 points 3 months ago

Pretty much every software crack says 'Block this application in your firewall'. I guarantee most people don't. Following these instructions would have prevented this entirely.

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