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While it is thought some of the water was lost to space, research has suggested that is not the full story, and that water could have been incorporated into minerals, buried as ice, or even exist in liquid form deep within the planet’s crust.

Now scientists say their calculations suggest vast quantities of liquid water are to be found trapped within rocks about 11.5-20km below the Martian surface.

“Our liquid water estimate is more than the water volumes proposed to have filled possible ancient Martian oceans,” said Dr Vashan Wright, a co-author of the study from Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California San Diego.

Writing in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Wright and colleagues report how they made calculations based on gravity data for Mars and measurements recorded by Nasa’s InSight lander. The latter reveal how the speed of seismic waves – created by Marsquakes and meteorite impacts – change with depth inside the crust of the red planet.

“A mid-crust whose rocks are cracked and filled with liquid water best explains both seismic and gravity data,” Wright said.

Wright added that if the measurements at the Insight lander location were representative of the whole planet, the amount of water trapped in the rock fractures would fill a 1-2km-deep ocean on Mars.

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[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

This is super cool and I would love to still be around by the time we can get to mars and investigate with living people.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And then we’ll ruin everything.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Are you kidding! Humans are awesome! And that rock is just sitting there, cold and irradiated. We can't possibly make it worse, it's a hellhole as it is, we can only make it better.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm completely serious. And that's really my position, humans are awesome.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is very possible that it happened the other way around already.

Lifev could have appeared on Mars when it was more hospitable and then a meteorite from Mars transported early form of life to Earth.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/130905-mars-origin-of-life-earth-panspermia-astrobiology

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I actually totally agree with that.

From everything I've learned about Mars it seems to be statistically improbable that there has never been life on Mars.

Given how often we find Martian rock here on earth, ejecta from meteor strikes on Mars. It's only logical that there have also been many meteor strikes here on earth that have sent material out to Mars. And given that there's been more recent findings to suggest bacteria can survive the vacuum of space, protected deep inside porous rock, as well as survive the temperatures of re-entry into atmosphere... It seems practically unavoidable that the earth has "contaminated" Mars with terrestrial life, or that earth was contaminated with life from Mars at some time (or many times) in the past.

And of course we know that Mars used to have liquid water on the surface. I think we have all the necessary elements for life, including, many millions of years for relatively rare events to occur.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ima say it. Ok we found water. There's lil bits of life here and there. Now what?

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay hear me out...

Mars Olympic Winter games. If we can make ice we can have competitive figure skating but don't only have to deal with 1/3 the gravity they have here so we can see some really cool stuff.

Is it practical, hell no. In fact it might be the dumbest reason to go to Mars. But the event would be awesome.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Is it really any worse than Saudi Arabia?