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I Think Ubuntu 23.10 is Making a Mistake… (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)
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[–] drcouzelis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This article is strange... The author uses "being able to open Microsoft Office documents" as a common example of what an OS that claims to be easy to use should be able to do. Then says...

When people download Ubuntu 23.04 they get an OS that can do everything Windows 95 did - with 23.10 they don’t

No default installation of Microsoft Windows EVER opened Microsoft Office documents. If this was a simple oversight in the write-up it'd be fine, but the point is hammered over and over again.

I don't have an opinion about Ubuntu including or not including more software in the default installation (my guess is it became too big to fit on a DVD?) but this article failed to make it's point to me by making a comparison to Windows that isn't true.

Also...

the world’s most popular desktop Linux operating system (that’s Ubuntu, for those of you playing dumb)

Is this supposed to be a cocky joke? I can't tell. What metric of "most popular" is the author using?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this supposed to be a cocky joke? I can't tell. What metric of "most popular" is the author usiing?

Number of active users.

[–] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

those numbers are nonexistent for most distribution, since forcing telemetry isn't really a cool move in the free software world

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The number of IPs hitting their software repos can be a decent way of estimating active users. Also, ISO downloads and so on.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

There’s also the check connectivity to Internet ping that network manager does. Arch Linux defaults to Arch’s servers, etc.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a pretty funny error, seems to forget that MS office is a very expensive bit of software and doesn't come included with windows.

[–] nestEggParrot@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does in recent times. My laptop came pre installed with win 11 and office home 2021(i think).

All i had to do was click activate to link the key to my email account. It showed up as a notification on first login.

Even if not activated it still would open files with that warning.

[–] flontlocs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Including a trial to incentivize users into paying for the software doesn't make it "built-in".

[–] nestEggParrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Not trial. Home Single user license.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just make it that if I open an office document that the software center shoes up with "app not available yet, here are the best options".

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's what windows does. It works... Poorly.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Article author is being melodramatic about how much of a laborious task it is to press a couple buttons to install software yourself, but it's also not hard for a distro to include optional sets of software packages available for selection during install.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is for you and me, but imagine a new user. One who tries Linux for the first time. This user will be lost. When he or she needs to google "which software on Ubuntu to open files of type .bla" the Nth time, I can see them throwing up their hands in frustration.

And, as a long term consequence, ratings of Linux distributions saying "Unbuntu - no longer recommended for new users".

[–] Sentau@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know man. Mac OS also has no software to open a lot of file types out of the box but even people with little to computer knowledge are able to download the things they need from the app store. They can do the same in ubuntu as well

[–] Turun@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use arch. Choosing your favorite music player is fun. Choosing your favorite music player, video Player, Browser, file explorer, system monitor, office suite and mail program is not fun.

[–] patapios_tsatsiki@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Turun @Treczoks why not going Arch-based (EndeavourOS, Manjaro…) then ?

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So far, this was not necessary. If the intention is to drive off any potential new users of the Linux range of systems, making it hostile to beginners is an effective way.

[–] flontlocs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Which is why beginners don't use Arch.