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TL;DR

  • The Moto Tag is now on sale directly through Motorola.
  • Individual units will run you $29, while a four-pack is $99.
  • The new Moto Tag is backward compatible with Air Tag accessories and even supports UWB.
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[โ€“] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 31 points 3 months ago

the Moto Tagโ€™s design makes it fully compatible with the majority of Air Tag accessories.

Ugh that means you're forced to buy a keychain for your keys finder as they didn't want to include a hole "because it doesn't fit the design language"

OEMs always copying the worst part of Apple products

[โ€“] sbv@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] 30p87@feddit.org 18 points 3 months ago

Motowola Tag wiw UwB :3

[โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want a open network that is privacy preserving

[โ€“] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So the new google findmydevice network?

[โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
[โ€“] keyez@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you read the posts and technical information about the new network? It's about as anonymous as you're going to get without a network of only like a dozen people.

[โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

It is a closed source product by a advertising company. Google already collects a huge amount of data so using Google services framework isn't private and it is all closed source so it isn't open. Let me know when it works on AOSP.

[โ€“] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Should be private if it works the way they say it does.

[โ€“] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Except you need the full GSF which isn't private

[โ€“] Virkkunen@fedia.io 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it depend entirely on FMD network? If so, then it shouldn't work better or worse than the other options since they all use the same restricted Google network

[โ€“] Neon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It can use UWB, that makes it better.

[โ€“] Virkkunen@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well but that still depends on Google adding that functionality, which can be anytime between now and never

[โ€“] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Oh their waiting for Apple /s

[โ€“] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Is that really a seperate, locked down api?

I thought any App with Bluetooth permission could access it.

[โ€“] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Whatโ€™s the battery life?

[โ€“] limerod@reddthat.com 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

moto tag boasts a one-year battery life4 with everyday use. Easy to replace batteries sold separately.

That's Motorola official https://www.motorola.com/us/moto-tag/p?skuId=1167

[โ€“] Pissman2020@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they have replaceable batteries they're already beating tile

[โ€“] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

My tiles all are replaceable batteries... It's model specific but available.

That said I'm getting these as soon as availability is better and hopefully uwb turns on.

[โ€“] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

About a year. It runs on a CR 2032, same as Air Tag.

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And what's the network like? Are there many devices out there reporting the position of those tags? Or is it just Motorola devices with their 5% market share?

[โ€“] limerod@reddthat.com 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It runs on Google's Find My device network. All android smartphones which support the latest location reporting are supported. Though, how it works in practice can be different.

[โ€“] GluWu@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How do I check if I have the latest location reporting support? And then turn it off?

[โ€“] limerod@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Launch the Find My Device app. Click your avatar and click find my device settings. You should network options and the granularity with to enable or disable the option.

[โ€“] GluWu@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do not have that app. I thought it was baked into google services which I haven't 100% gotten rid of, still on OEM and not lineage or graphene.

[โ€“] limerod@reddthat.com 2 points 3 months ago

Search the settings. Or install from play store for a convinient shortcut.

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I thought that wasn't launched yet? Do they backport and enable that per default to compete with the mass of iPhones, or is it going to be a rare occurence that a tracker gets reported?

[โ€“] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a pebblebee, which uses the FMD network.

It's pretty obvious that the network isn't as robust as Apple's. I expect it'll improve.

[โ€“] keyez@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully but probably not as it seems everyone online wants to disable or turn off the initial minimal setting.

[โ€“] Windex007@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I know that's the general sentiment for online discourse. I think it amounts to a rounding error in terms of total population. I'm confident it'll improve. Maybe never be better than airtags... But I expect better than now.

[โ€“] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Good luck. Donโ€™t think it weโ€™ll ever be better unless Google changes the default.

[โ€“] limerod@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It should be compatible on most android smartphones running the latest version of play services. The default should work for lost smartphones and items in high traffic areas. So, tracking in low density areas may be spotty.

[โ€“] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Oh so useless. Since Googles find my is useless.

[โ€“] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 3 months ago

Theoretically good as it could use any android device with Google services installed - in practice not as good as airtags as Google made it opt-in and nobody ever changes default settings

[โ€“] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was listening to a podcast about a dad who puts air tags in his kids shoes when they go on vacation. And I love the idea.

But I'm extra concerned about privacy and life span. Is this one of those situations where it's like house cams where everything is transmitting to a foreign nation/government anyways just accept that for convenience?

[โ€“] Ilandar@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago

Motorola's website claims:

Android devices can detect Bluetoothยฎ signal from 100 meters, but only you'll see where your moto tag device is when you open Find My Device1. The entire process is anonymous and encrypted end-to-end.

[โ€“] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

That's nice. I already got some Chipolo on account of them being made in the EU. Being with AirTag accessories is a nice pro to this alternative.

rip nest for Motorola.