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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

i've been told so many times on the lemmyverse that holding biden, trump and kamala accountable, in the only way that i can, for supporting genocide brands me a single issue voter; it's nice to see a reminder that others out there understand how truly morally bereft it is and give it the weight it deserves.

thanks for sharing; i needed to see it.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

i suppose stop paying attention and shut up like the mods & users of lemmy.world and reddit keep pushing me to do.

honestly, i think that if hadn't have suffered as much as i did at the hands at biden, obama, both bush's & clinton i would probably agree with them.

my suffering PALES in comparison in ways that i don't want to imagine for those suffering in gaza and sharing my views and voting accordingly is easy now that i no longer live in texas, so i'll keep doing it; it's just nice to see the it's not the same 8 or 9 dozen lemmyverse users who also feel this way.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was an honest question, I'm not from the US, so I have no horse in the race.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

everyone does; whether or not you're american.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean I guess I'd rather Trump didn't win, but I can't do anything about it. So no, I have no horse in the race.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

so long as american bombs, american soldiers, or american money touch your country; you too will be impacted by this race.

the only way to plausibly ignore it is to be russian, chinese or western european; everyone else is the world is kowtowed to american hegemony, willing or not.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

that's only true if you're somehow insulated from american hegemony.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Depends... We're all interconnected on some level. But i don't care anymore.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (12 children)

The Green party and Cornel West are alternatives.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The one difference I have here is Harris is kind of trapped. She doesn't have the authority to sanction anyone or stop weapons shipments. So all she could really do is resign. And that's pretty much political suicide. As things stand I think she's our best hope to stop those shipments. It's not a very bright hope I admit. But of the three she's it.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

she needs to speak out & issue statements against it as publicly and frequently as possible to make it clear that she intends to stop american support for the genocide to get people to vote for her.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From the objective POV, that's what we want. Not what she needs. Everything I've ever learned about politics says don't go radical in the campaign unless you're desperate. And by radical I don't mean ideologically. I mean going where the polls are less than 60-99 percent in favor of something. And that has to be micro as well. For example it doesn't help her if she goes hard left if the state she needs to win doesn't have a hard left population big enough to support that. Or worse, she trades a state for it.

We really have the world's worst way of electing our Executive. So she's going to stay in that position of demanding a cease fire, and talking about civilian casualties until the campaign is over. And she's right to do so unless there's polling to say that's more harmful to her than making a statement to take a side with Palestinians.

I would love for her to come over and fully denounce Israel. But the politics of the situation don't allow for it. She's not tarred in the same way as Biden and she's going to stay neutral as long as she can.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I would love for her to come over and fully denounce Israel. But the politics of the situation don’t allow for it. She’s not tarred in the same way as Biden and she’s going to stay neutral as long as she can.

i've assumed this is why she had to meet with netanyahu in private after he addressed congress; something of an overture to those who boycotted it.

and i wish she had less of biden's political tar on her so that i could be happy w the statement released after that private meeting to nudge that voting needle towards kamala instead of west or stein.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There is no reason to believe she will differ from Biden given her past record.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

You know it’s not a color revolution when the signs aren’t printed in English to be regurgitated by Western corporate media.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 8 points 3 months ago

That looks huge

[–] GENTLEMANNEofLEISURE@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

His city 17 speech immediately flooded my head lmao

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 months ago