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Most conservative pundits out there seem to all talk about how they wanted to do something specific with their life but it didn't work out.
They like to blame the current systems and government for not doing enough to make them famous or popular or cool with the youth.

They then convince a bunch of people who are also unhappy but could have a lot of their issues with lack of time and resources fixed with money, that if they are unhappy while having money dumped in their lap than these normal people will be unhappy with it too. Hoping they fix some arbitrary reason they aren't more famous.

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[–] lemmydripzdotz456@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just because "I have money but I am not happy" is a true statement, that does not mean that "if you have money, you will not be happy" is a true statement.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 3 months ago

Oh absolutely.
And yet these kinds of people keep saying money won't buy happiness when it's literally proven that happiness does go up as you get financial freedom before topping off at an income that meets your immediate financial needs. Then you stop getting more happy.

But I think they will never be happy because what they want isn't tied to financial means. Look at Tim Poole and his need to be cool to skateboarders or all the Fox news hosts that worked in theater or tried to be journalists elsewhere like Tucker Carlson. Heck even Trump loves musical Theater and just wants his dead dad's love he can't get.

Unhappy but somehow it's the governments fault because the replacement job and money didn't fix them.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

No they convince people without money that it's THOSE people's fault that they don't have money. It's to take pressure off the people that HAVE all the money

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Conservative pundits play sympathetic characters to grift money from the disaffected. Of course they love money, that's why they sell their souls for it. I'd be very surprised to see if even half of the Fox News, etc. personalities believe or are even really conscious of what they're saying, or if it's just a means to an end (money).

[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

I'm having trouble finding it, but there's a clip of a left wing commentator (I believe it was Sam Seder) saying that they were going to dinner with right wing commentators after some sort of news appearance. He was continuing to talk about the subject at hand, when the other person told him something along the lines of, "Hey, just leave that on the field, man."

It's clear that they don't believe the bullshit they're spouting. They'll run propaganda and interference for whatever side gives them money and attention regardless of what they're saying and how it harms people.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago

I think they don't even love the money anymore since it comes with the strings. They just are scared of who they would be without it.

I do think they just end up having to say whatever is needed and required of them to say to keep getting it and they eventually clock out and just exist in their own misery and reality as needed to keep it going.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I can't argue that money doesn't make you happy because I was engaged to a milionaire and broke off because it was the worst time of my life. BUT having money and being the owner of the money are 2 different things. I had a no limits creditcard but I had to deal with shitty people all the time for it. Fuck no. You want YOUR money

I'm a very happy poor person but I don't have any loans, just my mortgage, and also no kids which takes 90% of the stress

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago

I mean it sounds like you are exactly living what I am trying to talk about.

Being attached to a rich person and fed money doesn't make you happy it just makes you wealthy enough to stabilize yourself. People raising to the needed position of lap dog often aren't even doing it cause they find any pleasure in it but instead have failed to find pleasure in anything they want to do and now need the money to feel anything good about themselves at all.

Being at the whim of the rich is about giving up yourself to be the tool they need and accepting the misery of not being true to oneself.

What people actually need is the freedom that independent wealth allows and a willingness to accept that it might not be exactly to their dreams without dragging others down for more.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives act like crabs in a bucket. If one gets money they will try to stop others from getting it so that they will have as much as possible. The mindset is that to be valuable, to be useful, you must have a purpose as no one can exist without purpose and we are all here for a reason. Being rich shows you are valuable and important.

Conservative pundits are the hype men. They are themselves unable to live their fullest potential but they can cling to people who have and by extension prosper like them. Pundits don't tell their own story, they don't talk about their own path because it would invite competition. Conservatives hate competition. Not that they don't think it should exist; competition is what proves strength and ability, it shows success. But they hate having to try so hard all the time and will actively work to stymy others. Conservatives are like crabs in the bucket - if one crab escaped and then stuck around the edge to knock other back down.

If you are hearing a message of "money sucks, don't try" then it's part of a broader effort to make folks not have money and this is he messaging for them to accept the arrangement.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah I often think of the rich as large plants given space to grow with an ecosystem the flourishes by growing around its core or in the shade of their influence.

But the pundits seem to cling to the outside barely being allowed anything but kept around because it brings pollinators that the main stalk needs but can't attract themselves if anyone realized just how uncontrollably they have grown.

It just seems miserable right?

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 3 months ago

Guys living off other peoples labour explain to wage slaves why they should not be asking for more for their labour...

They ain't got to be conservative... Any regime hoe is the same

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of young conservatives