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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Happy Fake Labor Day to the Americans, because their government wants to hide real labor day from their citizens so they don't have to educate them about the Haymarket Affair.

Labor Day being in September is absolutely about erasing labor history. If more people knew labor history, more people would understand why All Cops Are Bastards.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

It was reasonable at the time to separate celebration of labor from Haymarket massacre, where an anarchist through a bomb into otherwise peaceful labor rally killing both the police and the civilian with many workers being injured and triggering the riot. The labor leaders in US then decided to make labor day to be not associated with these bloody events, which have little relationship with the labor movement itself. Not sure why you refer here to ACAB, the policemen were victims here.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are correct, the American website Wikipedia definitely does not have an article on Haymarket

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One thing I’ve learned on reddit is that you never tell people on platforms like that or even this one that you’re a landlord. You could be the best landlord, never raise a reasonable rent, keep a well and promptly maintained property, and LanDlOrDs aRe The ScUm of ThE Earth!!1! is all you hear.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (30 children)

The very idea of being a landlord is pretty evil though? Like in a housing shortage you're hoarding property and profiting off it.

[–] grue@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like in a housing shortage you’re hoarding property and profiting off it.

Housing shortages are caused by bad government policy: namely, low-density zoning. Direct your anger towards the entity that deserves it, and make them fix their fuck-up.

(Note: I'm not making some kind of Libertarian "all government is bad" argument here. I'm saying that in this specific case, the laws need to be changed.)

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

There is enough empty property to house every homeless person 30 times. Some of those empty property are summer houses and shit, but even then the problem isn't the lack of housing, it's treating homes as a mean to make money out of people's basic needs. You can build the best walkable city in the world, but if it will be bought by professional landlords immediately it will not solve shit.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not everyone is able or willing to own their property, what would they do if landlords didn't exist?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Make it illegal to rent out property you don't live on.

If you want to rent out your basement, or build a seperate dwelling on your property then you are adding to the available housing and can rent that. Most people would rather build their own equity given the chance, and this would provide rentals for temporary living situations.

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Where would people live then? Those don't want to buy. Under the bridge?

[–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think everyone in your replies is conflating being a full time landlord and a part time landlord. One of them is definitely more evil than the other.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk my previous landlord was part time and was still hell.

[–] brick@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

My previous landlord was amazing. Dealt with every issue that arose in a timely fashion, never raised my rent (which was already very fair based on the location), and even installed central AC after my first kid was born since the house was old and could get pretty hot in the summers.

And she wasn’t the only good landlord I’ve had.

Sorry your experience has been bad with renting, and I agree that most landlords are terrible (I’ve had plenty of those as well), but just because you haven’t ever had a good landlord doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the alternative here? Only letting big companies without any ethical regards rent housing?

Sure, there's a good argument to be made that housing is essential to survive and as such should be provided by the government, but that's not the world we live in. In this society, it's likely someone is going to have to rent it out and I'd rather it be a person who actually gives a shit and can be held responsible rather than some faceless corporation.

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[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Your assuming everyone wants to own property over renting.

House and property ownership has a lot of responsibility and expenses involved. Your water heater breaks well there is $1000+ your roof needs replacing there is 30K. All of that goes away when you rent as it isn't your responsibility.

If you own property it can be harder and more risky to relocate. I know a few people that bought in 2007 and then were stuck as they couldn't afford to move because they were upsidedown on their house.

Not saying renting is all sunshine and roses. I personally would rather own then rent but home ownership isn't for everyone.

But I do think it is a major problem when you have a few companies buying up all property so no one else can afford it. But I don't think being a Landlord is inherently evil.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Threw down over 20k in fixes so far in our first year of homeownership, and due to interest rates and closing costs, we don't really have the opportunity to move anywhere else without taking a significant financial hit.

You bet it's not for everyone.

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[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Rentals should be socialized, not owned by corporations or private citizens.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually recently learned about housing co-ops. Basically an apartment complex led by a committee of residents. It's non profit high density housing, so you can buy a share (meaning rent an apartment) at much lower rates. As an example, in my area the co-ops are at 1/2 to 2/3 the cost of traditional rentals. The downside is, from what I hear, the folks managing the apartment complex can be even worse than an HOA if you're unlucky.

IMO this is the sustainable way forward for housing.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I would love a co op

[–] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget food too. No one should profit on necessities.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Correct, but only one mountain can be climbed at a time. We have more reliable food sources than housing sources right now.

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[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Small-scale landlords also usually have full time jobs and use rent to supplement their income. Not every landlord is just rolling in cash.

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[–] Poe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am my hamsters land lord. Ask me anything

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

my cat and I started as roommates but now I'm pretty sure he's my boyfriend.

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