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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Not even this, it's increase profits next quarter.

Corporate behavior would be ridiculously different if they weren't so short term.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Corporate behaviour would be different if they were treated like the citizen they claim to be.

The prison would be filled to the brim, and we could release people that were imprisoned for smoking pot or something to make place for people destroying the planet.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Where companies will sacrifice the next 2 years for a good "next quarter".

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[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (13 children)

It's easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 52 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget:

The problem is not that they choose to do this, it's that they're allowed to do it.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's not that CEOs just happened to be evil. It's a material conditions problem. Anyone who becomes a CEO has tremendous pressure to become evil. You could even argue that the steps you would have to take to become a CEO are morally problematic. So the pressure to become evil starts early. As soon as you enter the job market.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Same for high politics btw.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Yes, but the difference is with politics things are more transparent and we have a choice. We can vote. With CEOs, we don't get a choice and no one really knows what goes on up there.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is why we normally argue for democracy. If everybody acts collectively in their own interest, we all win.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If everybody acts collectively in their own interest, we all win.

I mean this is only really true so long as everyone is allowed to vote, which is inevitably never the case. We always have certain subsects of the population which aren't really given access to democracy. It's very easy to, even in a "total democracy", still have a ton of xenophobia and imperialism, because obviously, people who aren't citizens can't vote. That's a very large top-down example, right, but this creation of subsects happens at every level. Famous more american examples are gerrymandering and the electoral college.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it's a 'trade'.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

The hand fits the glove

[–] praechaox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

More than allowed! The system (society at large, capitalism, etc...) forces them to think this way!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago

Ed Zitron's podcast, Better Offline, has been discussing the rot economy for multiple episodes. The idea of "number go up" being the only metric that matters makes a lot of sense for how we got here.

[–] Tixanou@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"If the customers are buying and the money multiplying and the PR people lying and the lawyers are denying, who cares if some things are dying!"

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

That song went too hard for Illumination Entertainment to greenlight it.

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

great title btw

[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or, y'know... Vote Democrat and have a chance to save your children from climate Armageddon.

[–] praechaox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

I feel like "Vote Democrat" is 0.5 step forwards while "Vote GOP" is 50 steps backwards. Really wish we had ranked choice voting and a handful of viable other viable parties like other democracies around the world!

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