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I'm not asking the people in the courtroom to be subject matter experts.
But I would like it if the judge, the one person who has the most power in that courtroom, to be able understand a wee bit more about technology than a 5th grader.
this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2023
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I am not disagreeing with you, but I would argue not knowing exactly what firefox is is a trait of the average gen Z. They are surprisingly tech illiterate. If it isn't pre installed on their iPhone or a feature of short form content, they won't know what it is.
Source: Am gen Z and go to school with such.
The least they could to is bring in an advisor to explain things
Finally, an actual use for consultants.
Arguably less than a 5th grader. I'd argue that the average 5th grader knows that Firefox is not a search engine.
So long as they know the difference come the end of it, it's fine. Judges are only experts on the law. Everything else is research and what's presented as evidence, testimony, and argument in court.
It's going to be someone's responsibility to teach the judge, and if the state attourney doesn't do it, that's really on them.
That's gotta be a fun trial... 🤦♂️
Only fix is stop boomers from taking executive/decision making roles in anything related to technology.
Nice to know that we have an expert on the job
All's they know is that it comes from a series of tubes, not a dump truck.
NO!
Member when microsoft was convicted of being a monopoly? Only took a decade and several judges who didn’t know what a browser was. And then nothing changed. Good times.
Thus is why we have expert witnesses and the like. Judges are not all knowing, they are experts in law.
If you don’t know the difference between a search engine and a browser at this point and time you should not be in any position of power. You’re clearly out of touch with society and it’s intricacies.
So long as they know by the end of the trial, before making the judgement, I see no reason to call foul.
I'd bet that 80% of people on the street wouldn't know either. Most will use whatever comes on their device.
Yep, people here seem to be totally misunderstanding and overestimating how much the average person knows about tech.
I work in a role where I have to help clients sometimes access their reports via a portal. The clients ages range from 20s to their 80s, some very successful, some less, all intelligent at least. The amount of times I have had to explain what a browser is....or how to type in a URL ("but I just type the address in the Google thing!', searching for a fucking URL), and the absolute fucking basics. It is infuriating, and it is not restricted to one type of person or age group. Most people simply do not give a fuck about tech.
My daughter is 12 and has just moved into secondary school. She's commented that a lot of her class in IT cannot use a computer. They do not know how to use a filesystem, how to use a mouse or even a keyboard as they've grown up with iPads/phones and being able to bash in what they want into the first screen they see.
I have no issues with the judge. He asked for clarification, got it, and moved on. That's not being inept, that's being a normal person. Now if he keeps doing it past this point, and it starts affecting the case because he's incapable of understanding, then yeah that might be different.
I work in a law firm and I would second this assertion. Lawyers are some of the smartest people I know, but many of the lawyers I know also have very little clue of what the difference here would be, and I don't think any of them could describe what a browser cookie is. 80% of the general public not knowing either would not be surprising to me.
Good example of a click bait title.
How so?
Do you expect judges in murder trails to be experts in blood splatter analysis?
I expect them to know the difference between blood and a body
Not everyone is a tech obsessed geek. And besides that's what evidence and witnesses are for.
Tech obsessed geek for knowing the difference between a browser and a search engine 🤣
It's not knowing the difference between a browser and search engine, it's recognising if Firefox is a browser or search engine.
And unless somebody is aware of Firefox they aren't going to know by the name alone.