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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I just know I’m going to have logoparalysis about logoparalysis next time I have logoparalysis about a different word and want to say I’m experiencing logoparalysis.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Say logoparalysis ONE MORE TIME

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do you want me to say logoparalysis?

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Maybe semantic satiation is their kink

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I'm sensing a theme...

[–] philthi@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I conflated conflagration with conflation 🤦‍♂️

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Inflammable means flammable? What a country!

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago

Steve Erikson wrote this comment

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Some reading related to logoparalysis https://introvertdear.com/news/the-science-behind-why-introverts-struggle-to-speak/

If you’ve always done this and not just as you’re getting older, then it’s more likely neurodivergent behavior vs developing Alzheimer’s or dementia. But as with all things related to health in some way, confirm with a doctor

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago

I'm convinced the ulterior motive of this comic artist is drip feeding nonsensical words into the hivemind

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I checked and logoparalysis isn't a real word (I guess none of these are?), but it should be. We need a word for the inability to find words.

[–] marretics@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't know about the others but conflagration most definitely is an actual word

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

Any notorious fire mage knows that one.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Lol, "not a real word"? They are right there in front of you in print with a definition and being used. That's literally all it takes to be a real word.

You, your grade school vocabulary, and your abridged dictionary aren't gatekeepers of the lexicon. Dictionaries describe the words people use. Dictionaries absolutely do not prescribe what are real words and which are made up, unless you're French (but even that is a lie). ALL WORDS ARE MADE UP.

Not a real word? Fucking hilarious.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. Use it enough and it ends up in the dictionary anyway!

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I think one really interesting case of this is "sonder", which has gained some popularity despite being explicitly invented a little over a decade ago.

[–] YodaDaCoda@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago

I think more to the point is that there's already a word with this meaning.

anomia

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They are right there in front of you in print with a definition and being used. That's literally all it takes to be a real word.

Not eeeexactly, or perhaps, not only that, always. I'd say it takes several people using it. But this would be used by several people, and just us discussing and using the word in the given context already would have rendered enough use for it to be "a real word".

Easily coined latin words aside, how is "conflagration" a hard word? I'm pretty sure it's quite commonly used as well. Moreso in literature than in everyday speech, but still I hold it's a rather common word.

Around 1800-1850 "conflagration" was more used of a word than "hospitality" was around the 1970's.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conflagration%2Clogoparalysis%2Chospitality&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3

"Logoparalysis" yields no results. So, regardless of how you define "real" words, the Ngram viewer definitely gives good info on their potential past usage

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

New words are still real words, even if you can't find it in an internet search. Don't lie to me and tell me you didn't immediately understand that word without needing the definition (because it's just such a damn near universal feeling, not every concept has a word YET in English, wild I know). That immediate reaction to a group of letters seems more real to me than your research skills. Words are more than artefacts to dig up and analyze. A fucking wild amount of our English language is informed by some playwright(s?) just making up words and phrases. Words are magic and this is a hill I will die on.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

New words are still real words

I didn't claim they weren't. Anyone can coin words, but whether they "become real" or not is just up to whether anyone else stars using them and or if they're made up of already known components which clearly indicate the meaning. Like for instance if I wrote random gibberish that I myself had assigned meaning to, you wouldn't be able to tell what it meant unless I used already existing words / conventions for coining new words.

That's the private language argument.

Obviously there are loads of words which get coined and instantly spread in usage, so the "age" of a word doesn't have meaning. The word having meaning is what matters.

If I wrote down lsdkbrjfufurbrnfnflslejje, is that a "real" word? Obviously it's just gibberish I wrote down, but what if I say it means a very specific thing. Does that then make it real? If people started using it, sure.

You very well know what people here mean by "real".

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Use it. It's a word. Stop being a fucking troll.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Stop being willfully ignorant.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 points 4 months ago

huh, so american politics is in a state of anomie

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Oh, fiery little sprite Conflagration in the night Don't play games with your sight If it leaves you in the dark