All these comments "wow they'll take anyone, they must be desperate."
meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao
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Ukraine:
- closed border for all males;
- non-stop involuntary draft of unwilling citizens;
- resorts to conscripting HIV positives and people with mental health issues.
Russia:
- first wave of forced mobilization ended half year ago, second wave still not started;
- still has open border for most citizens (which actually helped a lot of them to avoid first wave of mobilization).
In alternative reality created by western massmedia this definately means that Russia is short of manpower. In world of logical thinking this actually means something else.
Russia did hire Wagner, who recruited from prisons, right?
That was like 20k people, and Russian army is estimated to be around 400k now.
Weird with 400k people they still can't get shit done and are being bombed on their own turf after failing an invasion with a consistent supply issue. Real weird.
Yeah, really weird how Russia is conserving its manpower by letting Ukraine deplete the army the west helped put together and arm for three months. I wonder what will happen once Ukraine depletes its military resources in the coming months. Gotta love all the arm chair generals opining on things they have no clue about. Here, read what an actual military expert has to say on the subject. Maybe you'll learn something, but I doubt it. https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine
read it.
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December 22, 2022. Literally almost a year old.
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Talks about manpower, likely 3 million draftable men in Ukraine, fails to acknowledge that as the county being invaded they don't only draft men. There are far more than the 400k (HIGHLY UN)willing Russian ~~meat shields~~ soldiers.
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Mentions Russian firepower might, doesn't acknowledge with outdated weapons.
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Article was written before Ukrainian counter offensive, before Ukraine landed shots on Russian soil and before F-15s.
nice trash you got there kid can i shit on it more? oh I can? thanks.
that's an article from a Pro Russian website.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/world/europe/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.html
Russia is LITERALLY trafficking people because their own soldiers won't fight. 400k fighting force? More like nada.
Lick my sack boy, fondle them with your wanna-be silver tongue you CCP pussy bitch.
nice trash you got there kid can i shit on it more? oh I can? thanks.
I love how this imbecile reads an article by U.S. Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin retired after 20 years of service, including eight years as an armor officer with four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and 12 years working as a modeling and simulations officer in NATO and U.S. Army concept development and experimentation, and calls it trash.
Everything the article predicts is currently happening.
Meanwhile, not sure what you think the relevance of your article is here. However, attributing thought to you may be too generous.
You are an utter imbecile and life is going to get very hard for you in the near future. Enjoy being smug while you can though.
uncomfortable for me? I'm not the one living paycheck to paycheck off Russian and Chinese propaganda lol
year old article.
let's see today.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/world/europe/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.html
again, trafficking for soldiers. still no comment? bad look imo.
"Retired U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Mark Arnold, by contrast, isn’t the least bit surprised at the slow pace of the advance — and he’s blaming the Americans, not the Ukrainians....
...June 23, at the very start of the counteroffensive, he emailed me: “I remain very skeptical that a decisive battle will occur this year that makes a material effect toward Ukrainian victory. That can happen next summer when the majority of maneuver equipment arrives from NATO into Ukraine.”
So this guy seems to think once equipped it is GG? And since we only are pumping more equipment that way, it really just continues the way it has for Russia. Pound for pound Ukraine has done more to Russia, yes Russia has more soldiers and a larger population or GPD.
Yet when we look at the actual situation. Russia has failed to take anything significant, they estimated a win by now. Why no win?
Now an entrenched populace, being further armed and personally fueled to fight faces kidnapped Cubans, Russian criminals and force conscripts.
Which is why Russia is losing because simply put as we Americans say, you can lead a horse to water but ya can't make him drink.
Weird, out of all the territory Russia held, Ukraine has reclaimed 54% of it. WOW that is more than half golly, in less than half the time too gee whiz.
And now they're being equipped with only more weapons?? And Russia is pleading to Iran and North Korea and China for weapons? Hm.. thought Russia had a bigger arsenal.
one is being INVADED
You fucking idiot lol
The question wasn't who's being INVADED, the question was who's DESPERATE FOR MANPOWER.
wtf you've lost the point of conversation and of your own original message, that's the real sign of ridiculous idiocy
HOLY FUCK y'all so stupid.
let me explain it for you, c'mon hold my hand.
If your country is being invaded every single person is part of the war effort. Every one. Even if you just cut grass or worked at costco, because you are being invaded and under threat of war. You're part of a war effort. Remanaging your resources like manpower to more war adjacent positions makes complete sense. All hands on deck, we are invaded.
If you are invading and must conscript fighters, your invasion is a meat grinder not going well.
Russia was supposed to end this war long ago, in their minds. At this point it is a sunk cost and they HAVE to win or they severely lose on a play they made.
So no. Not the same. Russia is doing terrible.
Thanks for interesting excursion into your delusions. Actually you've just written WHY Ukraine is more desperate for manpower than Russia ("every single person is part of war effort and so on"). So you yourself proved your initial position to be wrong, but you were too lame to grasp that. And about "we are invaded": the only war that you personally wage is war in lemmy comments against facts, logics and critical thinking. Don't try to cover your own nullity with other's casualities.
personal attack, personal attack... huh nothing? no content ok.
Ukraine is fighting for their lives, Russia is forcing a fight for personal gain of the rich. Different games they're playing you stupid cuck lol
How do you know?
lol how do you?
The burden of proof is on the accuser - I am not the one making unverifyable claims. Since the war, Ukraine population is reduced by 16%. Who do you think they are recruiting? Interestingly, 1.7 mio. immigrated...
they are being invaded case closed
LoL
Haha - your so funny. You must be really cool and strong. Your wisdom must be at the peak of humanity. Enlighten us and plant your seed for future generations to thrive on the fruits of your genius.
Personal attacks is a solid way to get blocked.
Yeah, laughing at someone is OK ('lol'). I am just giving you the clownery you are craving for.
Dude, if you're being forced to post pro-russian comments by Putin post another pro-russian comment. We will get you out of there.
What did I say that is pro-russia?
Dunno couldn't hear you with them boots in your mouth and your nose up an ass
"your mouth and your nose up an ass" - deft, 2023
Sounds nice.
bootlicker
brown-noser
sorry forgot Russians suck at English
[citation needed]
look its the moron who posts actual chinese propaganda.
fuck off shit for brains
you used so many words to say that you are dumb fuck
this guy literally posts chinese propaganda lol
yes, you've told us that you're a dumb fuck already lol
literally tho look
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1364423
lol that is his post. In the entirety of this conflict Russia hasn't gained anything but ire from it's own populace (see moral / attempted coup)
since then Ukraine has regained 54% of it's territory.
literally propaganda lmfao
It doesn't feel like a great idea to conscript those with mental health issues heavily impacted by stress.
My thoughts exactly. You put me on the front line and my general commander is getting a bullet. Not saying I'll remember doing it but nobody dies except those that force me to kill.
Saying you don't "remember" doing it is probably not going to help much in your court-martial when you've posted a pre-meditated plan to do it on an open social media platform beforehand.
Who tf cares lmfao.
You've been warned global military
/r/IAmVeryBadass
I would rather die than kill. If you tell me to kill I will kill you first to limit the amount of total death.
This is the ultimate utilitarian take on the ethics of the situation you dunce.
It's a terrible idea and it tells me that all the propaganda were getting about Ukraine clearly winning and barely losing anyone is bullshit. They must be real desperate if they're conscription people with mental disorders.