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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

His hubris will keep him in the race and he'll bring everyone down with him

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He is making the exact same mistake that RBG just made.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And despite everything she had done, RBG's legacy will be how she fucked us with the Supreme Court

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 4 months ago

I hope there is an afterlife so that RBG can know how badly she has damaged the United States' social fabric as a result of her own hubris.

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly this is a pretty common mistake old people make. They latch on to who they used to be a detach from reality. Classic dementia symptoms

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You say this as if Pelosi isn't in a similar boat, leading the sinking ship she refuses to get off of because she'll have nothing to do and no one to boss around anymore.

All of the DNC leadership are there in their 80+ glory. Constantly in the way of actually winning by making the decision they want in a vacuum ignoring the real world, and further ignoring everything that happens after that point. They did it with Hilary, they did it with Biden the first time (only winning because Trump clearly let millions die from COVID, and even then it was still somehow close). They just expect Dems to vote because the alternative is worse, instead of giving people an actual reason to do so, and are always surprised by the outcomes.

The DNC made their choice last year and it was never going to be different. The only reason they're talking about it now is because the debate that was never going to be a positive for Biden in any universe, was handled poorly, to the surprise of no one actually paying attention.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Pelosi stepped down as House Minority leader. I would like her (and the other 75+ members of Congress) to step down entirely, but tbf it could have been worse.

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

I feel like you think I was disagreeing with you but I wasn't haha

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Leading the sinking ship she refuses to get off? She got off of it already. She's not leading anymore. She's preparing to retire.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

You honestly think the current DNC leadership doesn't still do what Pelosi says? You are an idiot if you think no longer having the title means no longer having power in US politics.

You also conveniently are ignoring the rest of the leadership. They're still the other old fucks with the same ideas.

Changing a CEO doesn't replace the rest of the Board of Directors.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago

I had the same thought just today.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago

Not OP but yes

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden is defensive by nature. He got super defensive when he was told how fucked up the Afghanistan withdrawl went, and again when told people were complaining about the economy.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Makes sense that he got defensive when people complained about the Afghanistan withdrawal when he was just following through with the previous administration's policy decision.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Agreed he didn't have a choice in doing it, the problem was the execution of it.

Then he said stupid shit like:

https://www.newsweek.com/clip-biden-saying-people-wont-lifted-off-embassy-roof-afghanistan-resurfaces-just-that-happens-1619517

"The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable,"

And then...

https://x.com/StefSimanowitz/status/1426846783267909633

[–] kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is a laugh or you’ll cry moment lmao. Bernie I wish you had like half of trump’s personality and told Biden to eat shit in 2020.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For all the vaguely bigoted caricatures of him as the quintessential grumpy old (Jewish) man from Brooklyn, Bernie's biggest problem was always that he's far too nice to people who stab him in the back (and front) and makes up all sorts of heinous things about him.

Classic examples from 2016 is when Hillary said that Bernie didn't have "real grandchildren" and he said nothing, or when he shot himself in the foot politically by telling the truth that "people are sick and tired of hearing about the damn emails" while she gave her most manically gleeful witch cackle.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, what? Doesn't have real grandchildren? Were they adopted? What a horrible thing to say.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, They're biologically Jane's but he considers them his own too. And yep, that WAS indeed a horrible thing to say 😡

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

polls show he cannot win and will take down the House

Oh, but when I say it, I’m a paid shill.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

the difference is that CNN gets paid.

wait...

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Because polls are bullshit.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago

If it wad said privately, it wouldn't be here.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

And everyone clicked and everyone shared and CNN made more money.

Just another day of manipulation and profit.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi privately told President Joe Biden in a recent conversation that polling shows that the president cannot defeat Donald Trump and that Biden could destroy Democrats’ chances of winning the House in November if he continues seeking a second term, according to four sources briefed on the call.

The president responded by pushing back, telling Pelosi he has seen polls that indicate he can win, one source said.

At one point, Pelosi asked Mike Donilon, Biden’s longtime adviser, to get on the line to talk over the data.

This phone call would mark the second known conversation between the California lawmaker and Biden since the president’s disastrous debate on June 27.

When asked for comment, White House spokesperson Andrew Bates did not respond to the details of CNN’s reporting on the recent Pelosi-Biden call.

A Pelosi spokesperson told CNN that the former House speaker has been in California since Friday and she has not spoken to Biden since.


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